Dealer Recommends Dualies - can it be?

   / Dealer Recommends Dualies - can it be? #41  
I have to tell you I am down with the whole Duel wheel thing. I really like the loaded inners too. Tractor gears and rear ends are way overbuilt anyway so unless you did something really stupid I don't think you have anything to worry about with Premature failures. In fact if your operating on slopes all the time the stress on bearings with single rears is is going to be higher than with duel because you have a much bigger footprint on the ground. It also decreases the bite into the ground that would make your tractor flip and more of a tendency to slip sideways rather than roll. In my view added stress to the wheel barrings from the duels is countered by the stress your removing by operating on a steep slope most of the time. That and the added safety of operating makes the choice very simple. Most tractors easily have a 20 year lifespan regardless of how abused or how babied they are. You break them, you fix them, gonna happen no matter what. If your concerned about cost of replacing wheel barrings the cost of standard a PM is really gonna rock your world
 
   / Dealer Recommends Dualies - can it be? #42  
:cool:Obviously your dealer was also planning on scooping up additional dough from you after those duals GUT the ring and Pinion out of your tractor... Nice concept, but unless duals come as a factory option like the large field tractors you can be assured the manufacturer did not build the ring and pinion or rear end housing to take that kind of off twisting ratio in a turn, let alone torque and surface pressure on the gear or ring hardened face surfaces... If your ground is that bad, a Carraro Tractor is probably the safest bet. They are not cheap, but neither is losing your life, buying two tractors or repeatedly repairing one.

Paula
 

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   / Dealer Recommends Dualies - can it be?
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#43  
Man... Talk about pulling up some history. I -reread this post and had to laugh as I ended up with one of those PT's that I had mentioned in the beginning.

Would love to swing the money for a carraro, but I am really happy with the PT. It is not perfect, but the Carraro did not have an FEL at the time (not sure if they have one yet anyway - picture looks like a home made job).

And in all my trips past the dealer in question I have yet to see something with dualies come or go from his lot...
 
   / Dealer Recommends Dualies - can it be? #44  
Man... Talk about pulling up some history. I -reread this post and had to laugh as I ended up with one of those PT's that I had mentioned in the beginning.

Would love to swing the money for a carraro, but I am really happy with the PT. It is not perfect, but the Carraro did not have an FEL at the time (not sure if they have one yet anyway - picture looks like a home made job).

And in all my trips past the dealer in question I have yet to see something with dualies come or go from his lot...

Wow! This is an old thread.

If I had your slopes (which I don't since my 10 acres are flat as a pancake), I'd use my 1964 MF-135 diesel. It's set up as an orchard tractor with short front axle spindles and high floatation filled rears on 16" dia rims. The rear track measures 84" wide and the centerline of the rear axle is about 21" above grade. A $3600 solution to the slope mowing problem you faced.

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   / Dealer Recommends Dualies - can it be? #45  
Note: I haven't read this whole thread...
I have owned two tractors that have had duals installed on them. One was a little Ford 1100 4x4 rated at 13hp. I built a set of adapters and mounted a set of Ag tires outside the turf tires already on it. The Ag's were about half an inch shorter than the turf's so that might have eliminated part of the strain on the axles. Shortly after I sold it, to a friend, the axle broke on him while driving across the yard with bush hog up in the air. The other is my Ford 7710 and it has a boom mower on it, and came used with the duals on it. The people I purchased it from said they have put 3 axles on the 7710. It is never used for pulling loads, never pulls a plow, just the boom mower. There aren't any slopes around here, except for highway overpasses, so that isn't the problem.
Do the math, and come to your own conclusions.
David from jax
 
   / Dealer Recommends Dualies - can it be? #46  
Wow! This is an old thread.

If I had your slopes (which I don't since my 10 acres are flat as a pancake), I'd use my 1964 MF-135 diesel. It's set up as an orchard tractor with short front axle spindles and high floatation filled rears on 16" dia rims. The rear track measures 84" wide and the centerline of the rear axle is about 21" above grade. A $3600 solution to the slope mowing problem you faced.

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Flusher you better hurry and get that barn built the sheet metal has plum disappeared on that little MF!!!Them some big rust bugs you have up there!!!
 
   / Dealer Recommends Dualies - can it be? #47  
There is at least one small CUT owner/TBN poster who has dualies and has posted photos before. I think the idea here is not that the dualies are for traction as in the big farm/field tractors but rather to provide "outriggers" for stability on slopes. That application would certainly make sense for a hilly area so long as the rear axle will tolerate the extra stress.

I've seen this picture too. In fact, I've got it on one of my PC's. I haven't read this entire thread, so maybe the pics have been posted.

If I recall correctly, the dualies are mounted on a mid sized Kubota (B 7500/7610 or one of the B7800 sized tractors).
He mows slopes surrounding a small lake or pond...pretty steep!

So, if most of one's property is sloped, dualies make good sense.
 

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