Well since you asked cdt80 I'll give you my experience. My dealer took about forty-five minutes to about one hour at most including the day I took the basic CK20 HST for a test drive, going over the tractor. I never even saw a CK20, in person, with a backhoe, until mine was delivered. I still remember delivery day (got a couple a nice photos too) and the salesman, (also he was the guy who put the tractor together at the dealer took some photos then too) and how he went over a few things at delivery. For me frankly I was nervous when it was delivered. I sat on a small dozer and operated it for a few minutes in the 1970's, sat on a ford tractor in the early 1970's and have owned and regularly used a lawn tractor since about 1990 (12.5 hp cub cadet). Heck, at delivery the salesman went over, for about fifteen or twenty minutes the FEL, Backhoe and basic engine controls. He operated the backhoe for about three minutes - did not actaully dig with it. In fairness to him he did ask me if I had any questions and he did not act like he was in a hurry to get back to the dealership. He was and still is a pleasant guy to deal with. You also have to keep in mind that it took me about two to three months to actually get the tractor after I agreed to buy it - those kioti backhoes were hard to get here. At the time of delivery I was a little embarrased to emphasis to the guy I was shelling out all this money for a tractor, loader, backhoe but that in reality I had zero experience using one and did not know at all how to operate one! I had already let him know I had no experience operating a tractor to speak of before delivery. I figured only time spent using my new tractor would get me the experience I needed. After the salesman left I shut the tractor off and left it in my driveway for a few hours. Real funny when I went to start it up to put it in the garage (fit with the ROPS up with about 2" inches to spare I had measured plus I looked right at the rops when I slowly drove in) I had to read the owners manual to start it up!!! I was very careful when I first got it cause I did not want to mess it up in any way and I was very unsure of myself. I have read hundreds of posts here about Kioti tractors and I now have over 20 hours on the tractor - just getting started with regular use. Moved more than 20 tons of gravel with it not really that much by tractor standards (took 2-3 hours) but a lot by the wheelbarrow full as I have done in the past. I have used it three times to clear snow on the driveway. I am still perfecting snow removal on my 80' drive with the fel. I try to review parts of the manuals every couple of weeks to remember all what all the swithces do etc. I reckon I will need to put on about 100-200 hours to get a good idea how to use it. Frankly the manuals just give a guy like me only a little insight on how to use the FEL and the backhoe. I think a few hundred hours operating time will cause me learn what I need to know. But some in person "instruction" or coaching could speed the learning process up. I did not expect the dealer to spend too much time with me but in retrospect I could have asked the dealer to spend more time with me going over the features. I'd like to see Kioti operating videos for all attachments and impliments for all tractor models - heck I'd buy em for my tractor. I guess part of the fun is learning how to use the tractor and the attachments! Charlie
