Deciding between B7610/B7800, implements (long)

[art]

I just got the dealer to agree to same price for the 2630 as the 7800. So, 4 more hp or all the extra features of the 2630?

I know the price difference and I'd take the 2630. With only two ranges the smaller B-s are out for your property size.

 

[stretch_169]

I am going to try and go drive a 2630 tomorrow, but for the same price I think the position control, telescoping links and extra lift capacity outweigh (pardon the pun) the 4 hp, but we'll see. Thanks to everyone and please add anything else I should be considering. I will update you as I know more.

Dave

 

[Toolguy]

Definately consider the B2630. The extra features are well worth the 4 hp tradeoff. I have a B3030 and I think it is a nicer tractor than the B7800. No disrespect to the B7800 owners who have commented here at all, JMHO. Some of the things I like about the B**30 series are, the modern looks, position control, telescoping 3pth arms, sloped hood and loader arms for better visibilty, improved cruise control and the coolest part, the foot pedal that controls the tilt steering wheel! I really don't get what all the big deal is about having a clutch. You don't need it. The hydraulic PTO engages very smoothly and you can shut it off with a flick of the wrist. Large farm tractors have had hydraulic PTOs for 40 years or more. In my opinion the clutch is just another thing to go wrong and cause a problem. If you are getting a B2630 for the same price as a B7800 you cannot go wrong. It should be cheaper to operate, too. Good luck.

 

[Ace Power Equipment]

Stretch169,

Before you pounce on that B2630, think about this. The 3030 is a 4 cylinder engine as is the 7800. The 3030 is a newer version of the engine and delivers it's hp at 2600rpm as opposed to 2900rpm. Maybe a little quieter, maybe a hair more fuel efficent. The 2630 is 3 cylinder and slides a little under 20 on the pto hp side. If your running brush hogs or mowers the 3 hp maybe worth the difference. Are you lifting anything at the 3 point hitch? 30 series has 350 lbs more lift capacity. The 30 series also delivers a little more gpm at the power steering pump, coupled with the hydraulic power steering maybe easier to turn with a bucket load. Now if your a beer drinker the tilt wheel on the 30 series maybe an advantage along with the adjustable seat suspension. Throw in cruise control for long runs and comfort to the max.The only thing I don't like about the 7800 is the seat. That tractor is a workhorse and deserves a better seat. Long day w/o armrests.

I'm sure you'll be happy with whichever Kubota you wind up with.

Brian

 

[stretch_169]

I won't be running a brush-hog and plan to run a 60" RFM, which as I understand even the 7510/7610 can run fine. Based on Kubota's specs (website and brochure) the 3PH lift capacity of the 2630 and 3030 are the same and both are 350 lb. more than the 7800. Is this right? The 2630 pump flows more than any other B-series tractor.

I also have to consider that my wife will also run this tractor and if telescoping arms will make it much easier for her to hook up the RFM then I have to consider that. I have already decided that if I get the 7800 I will fit the telescoping arms to it.

No question the 7800 is a great tractor and I look forward to seeing the 2630 tonight. The best of both worlds would be the 3030 but I have to draw the line somewhere. I would have to spend close to another $2k to get there and I would simply rather buy an implement or 2 with that money. BTW, my dealer quoted the retail prices (just for comparison purposes when I asked about price-matching) and the 2630 retails $900 higher than the 7800 so to be able to but it for the same money seems like a good deal. I'll keep you posted.

Dave

 

[IslandTractor]

I also have to consider that my wife will also run this tractor and if telescoping arms will make it much easier for her to hook up the RFM then I have to consider that. I have already decided that if I get the 7800 I will fit the telescoping arms to it.

You might check out several aftermarket devices that make hooking up 3PT implements much easier and don't require the telescopic arms. The telescopic arms are better than standard but you still need to grunt to get the first arm attached if the tractor is not lined up perfectly. The aftermarket devices allow you to back into the implement and then raise the 3PT arms to capture the implement pins without getting off the tractor (you then get off to lock them in place.)

 

[stretch_169]

Well, I got to test out the 2630 tonight and then try the 7800 again so it was back-to-back and I can't say it really solved everything the way I had hoped. Ergonomically and aesthetically the 2630 has much more to offer but the 7800 is more of a brute. I couldn't put their power to the test but did give them each a good run. The 2630 seemed happier with more revs while I feel the 7800 gets rougher at higher RPM but at lower revs the situation is reversed. Neither at this dealership had a loader so I couldn't compare the 402 vs. 403, but the price I was quoted on the 2630 at dealership 1 includes a 60" loader, I assume this is an advantage? Any experience with the difference in loaders? Otherwise, it is a tough call, both seem like great machines that will do whatever I need.

Dave

 

[ducati996]

see how the prices compare to this site - Look at all the trouble I caused by suggesting a 2630/3030 from the get go. Its better to know beforehand than not regarding the other models. based on the nice plans Kubota offers, I would find a way to make it the B3030 - have you seen the cab yet for the 3030? Nice!!

Kubota B-Series prices

 

[Fjord]

I feel the 7800 gets rougher at higher RPM

Dave

I've noticed on my B7800 that when I first rev it up to near PTO rpm (2600) I think "this thing's vibrating quite a bit", but after it runs up there for a while it seems to smooth out. Don't know why -maybe it's just my imagination.I was going through the same dilema as you just before Christmas: 7800 vs 2630.Sometimes I wish I had extendable lower links and position control, but if I came up short on PTO hp then I'd be wishing I'd opted for the extra 4 hp. I think part of the problem is that you just don't know how much power the jobs you want to do will take until you start doing them.I can say the 7800 has had enough power to do whatever I wanted so far but I don't know if I was running close to the line or way under utilized.My way of making life easy without extendable links was to set my implements on dollies and wheel them over to the tractor.The extra amenities might be good if as you said your wife is going to be using it too. That was also my plan when I got mine, but it turned out to be too much fun, so I do it all myself. If worst comes to worst you can just flip a coin.I'm pretty sure you'll be happy with either one.

 

[8561]

Both are good machines. If it was my decision, I would lean to the 2630. I think you might want to consider that there will be things you do on your tractor you never imagined you would. I use mine in ways I could never have envisioned when I bought it. I have a deluxe featured tractor, and I wouldn't want to own one that wasn't. Life's too short.

By the way, to add comment about putting your implements on dollies, life with your tractor will be immesuarably improved if you can roll everything. I can roll every implement I own, including my loader when it is off. It's incredible how nice it is to be able to do that.

 

[teeravis1]

Hey Stretch, I am reading you go through the same dilemas trying to figure out which tractor to purchase as I, and probably everyone else went through. I am no expert, but here is my advice. If you really would like the B3030 and can afford it even though you do have to draw the line somewhere..... I will suggest going the extra $2000 (if you can afford too) even if it stretches your budget for the tractor, because this is something you are going to have for life if you choose. It is a long long term investment because it will last longer than you do. So because it is going to last that long I highly suggest getting what you want even for the extra cost if you can do it. On top of that if you are financing it, it cost so much anyway, the $2000 won't make that big of a difference. By the way I have a B3030 and love it. I went through the same type of thought process as you but in the end it was to get the cab for the 3030 or not. I decided that since I am going to have the tractor for life, I would stretch my budget and get the cab. It cost about 3000 or 4000 more, but I am sure glad I did it now after the fact, and it is what I really wanted. Man, I sure have trouble putting my thoughts down in writing short and to the point...............sorry about that

 

[Timber]

I personally, use small pallets and a pallet jack to move all my implements around. I don't know if I would change if I had extend able arms as this is very easy to do. It all depends on your set up though. I have cement floors in all my out buildings so it is very easy to do. As far as your choices on a tractor your on your own now. We all love are tractors for many reasons. No matter what you choose your going to love it. It will change your life LOL I will say though My experience so far is most all my work is done at Low RPMs. I don't cut grass with this tractor. I use it mostly for ground engagement.

 

[KubotaSteve]

I use my 7800 on everything from mowing to tilling to post hole digging and box blading. I find that it does each well and as far as hooking up implements, I thought about the extendable arms but I just back in and move the implement around (using 3ph arms) until everything lines up. I also have Pat's easy change system and rarely require any extra effort.I've used this machine from morning to dark for an entire weekend and have suffered no effects from all the creature comforts. Of course maybe it's that I've never been spoiled by having them. Maybe if I were making my living with the machine, I would want all the nice features, but for homeowner use I want the most bang for the buck.If you still can't decide, have your wife go along with you and see which one she likes better. You can't go wrong by keeping her happy!!!!Good luck

 

[stretch_169]

You guys are a great help, at this rate I will end up with a 3030 w/cab and a divorce...LOL. I saw one of those yesterday, definitely a budget-buster.

Dave

 

[Timber]

What kind of a *** has a cab on a tractor anyway, Are We Not Men hear

Woops Sorry I for got about Audry, You can have a cab

 

[rickster]

A cab might be nice in the winter but I can tell you from first hand that
a cab model won't fit into a garage with a 7' opening as easily as my
folding rops will

 

[Timber]

I was just kidding anyway, I wish I had a cab

 

[Bob_Young]

Have you got hills, Stretch? The B7610 will let you set the rear wheels out to increase stability. I remember looking at a B7800 and being surprised that the wheels are fixed. Not sure about the B2630, but in the brochure, the axle flange looks like that on the B7800. Could be an issue if you have to mow across any slopes

I really liked the B7800 when I was shopping; but it was just too big with the trees I have. The B7610 is quite smooth at all working RPMs. I'm puzzled by the reports of vibration with the 4 cyl. B7800. You'd think it'd be smoother, if anything.
Bob

 

[stretch_169]

Not much for hills so I don't think that will be much of an issue. When I tested the 7800 this time it seemed to vibrate when first brought up in revs then settle down, but that is on a very limited run so I am just reporting what I felt on a brief drive. I am sure that the 4-cyl. is very smooth, as is the 3-cyl., even at the 2800 RPM that the 2630 runs.

 

[Toolguy]

The 4 cylinder engine in my B3030 does vibrate at certain RPMs. I have learned where it is smoothest and try to operate at those RPMs. I have run 3 cylinder Kubota engines in the past and find them to smoother most of the time. I wouldn't let the slight vibration issue deter me from the 4 cylinder though if I thought I needed the extra power. I bought the B3030 because I plan on having it a long time and felt that the extras were going to be worth it in the long run. I have never regretted my choice and would do it again. The extra cost of the B3030 over the B7800 is only about 10% more. Spread over 20 years I will never miss the money.