Decision Time - My hands are sweating!

texaslandman · Mar 17, 2004

Thanks for your thoughts.

txdon · Mar 17, 2004

Texaslandman, at first you will be able to push bigger trees and more brush with the coyote. In a year or two you will have all your brush and small trees cleared and will be just maintaining the cleared area. If you look into the future doesn't a more maneuverable HST tractor seem more desirable? Plus you will get more seat time clearing at a slower pace now. You must determine if the Kubota can push the size of trees and brush that you have now, if it can't get the coyote or (here's something you don't want to hear) a larger Kubota. What ever you get, get teeth on the bucket. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

texaslandman · Mar 17, 2004

Andy,

Thanks for your comments. You make some good points. I'm worried about the dirt floor service area, staffed by 2 mexicans at the Kioti dealer. Seems to me there should be more of a price spread between Kubota (high customer recognition) and Kioti (relatively unknown).

rozett · Mar 17, 2004

I have to agree with Andy. I bought my Cub because it was heavier, bigger footprint, and much better 3pt lift capacity than the competition. Since most of my previous tractor experience was with older equipment, I was used to gear drive. The shuttle-shift is my HST. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

While many folks would make their decision based on the dealer, my Cub has never seen a dealer in 3 years. I'm sure it will some day, but I'll worry about it then.

And I agree with Bob. If you are going to use the FEL, get the tires loaded. Is heavier and loaded tires going to be a problem with your sand?

AndyMA · Mar 17, 2004

</font><font color="blueclass=small">( Andy, do you feel the same if the service area is a dirt floor shop, staffed by 2 mexicans, not mechanically certified as far as I know? )</font>

Probably not. I agree that the dealer is very important. I took the time to look up the specs on the 2 machines and I found the weights without loaders to be 1367 lb vrs 2469 so there is quite a difference. The 3pt lift capacity 24" behind pins was 1058 vrs 2100 in the Kioti's favor. The one spec where I didn't find your numbers was the loader lift capacity at full height. Kubota 925# at bucket pin. Kioti KL1230 loader 920# at bucket pin. Heights were different.
Loader breakout was 1356 vrs 1870 in the Kioti's favor. The Kioti is just a bigger tractor, and yes I do think size matters /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Where is the next major Kioti dealer if something major goes wrong?

Andy

texaslandman · Mar 17, 2004

Thanks for your comments. I'm leaning to the Kubota purely for the dealer..

texaslandman · Mar 17, 2004

Your answer may be the reason I go orange in our area.

BillG_in_TX · Mar 17, 2004

Gary,

I don't know if Deen Implement is the Kubota dealer you're considering, but they have an ad in the Dallas Morning News today, and I noticed that they are running a special on the B7800HSD with FEL, 5' rotary cutter and 5' box blade for $16,280. Sounds like a good deal to me.

I sent you a PM (private message). Look for the flashing envelope toward the top of the page.

texaslandman · Mar 17, 2004

It is a fact that Deen Implement out of Wills Point has given me the best price with no hagling.

BillG_in_TX · Mar 17, 2004

Gary,

As I think I told you before, I've bought filters, parts, and even my ROPS from Deen in Forney. They are all fine folks, and have gone out of their way to be helpful to a newbie tractor owner with an old tractor (that I didn't buy from them). /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif