thanks for everyones input .do you guys think i need a tooth bar for this project i have a boxblade with rippers and a i-beam type pulverizer with railroad spikes welded to it for ripping .im hoping to get this done with the l853 loader and boxblade i tested it out the otherday and was able to get down about 3 inches and push that cut until the bucket was 3/4 full ground seemed fairly soft thanks again for your time
deep digging with a grand l 4330
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Casey1
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You could probably get by without it but it would be a good excuse to get one.
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yodi said:
Your best bet is to rip the earth up first, then use your bucket on the loosened soil. I suggest that you drive around the area with that pulverizer thing, then scrape off the torn up stuff. Rinse and repeat. And repeat and repeat...
I use my backhoe to tear up and area then cart off the dirt, but in your case that pulverizer thing will probably work even better.
Jay
Dargo said:I see I was already beaten to the correction of how many buckets full it would take. Also, from spending 3 years digging my own pond (256' X 283' with an average depth of 7'6" - 20 feet deepest part) I can tell you that you most likely will end up needing to move over 200 buckets full to get what you want. I used a D6 6 way dozer, a Cat 955 high lift, a JD 790 excavator and 2 tri-axle dump trucks. However, your project isn't anything you can't do with your tractor. Just don't plan on doing it in a couple of hours.
Hey, so I dropped a "1" ! (thanks for the catch)
Back on topic, I don't think you need a tooth bar to do the work. It would be easier in some ways, but not needed. Put the box blade on the back. Rough the ground up with it, then scoop it out with the FEL bucket just about level. If (when) you mangle the ground up and make lumps and such, use the box to smooth it all back out. Tip the box so the nose is higher than the tail for smoothing. Opposite for digging. All part of learning a new skill
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Timber
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I don't know I think you defiantly need a toothbar.not just for this but just because you should have a tooth bar. It is about the cheapest best investment for you tractor and real easy to sell it on you wife as to why you have to have it. Once you have it you will never understand how you lived without it
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Timber
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Well you can eat a piece of steak without teeth too if you want to sit and take the time to mash the **** out of it before you decide it is time to swallow it
RobJ
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Yep the type of ground you have and if you rip it first are key to the ease of the job. Heck depending on how far you need to move the spoils, you could use a BB to pull the dirt out of the hole. A full load on a 5-6' BB is probably close to the size of a bucket.
HomeBrew2
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Agree with Johnbud and RobJ ... just seems logical and easy to me ... load with the loader, rip with the rippers, scrape with the scraper, dig with a hoe ... if one happens to have a dozer, doze with it. Still haven't found a need for making a toothbar.
Timber
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I guess it depends on your soil condition too. In New England if the dog tips a water dish you get a rock. I could not imagin what my bucket would look like without it