Deere advert
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Inspector507
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Billy,
here is one from Mozilla's website
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However I have no experience with it, so you look at it and see if it's right for you.
here is one from Mozilla's website
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However I have no experience with it, so you look at it and see if it's right for you.
ronjhall
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Someone TBN suggested using the Google toolbar. I loaded it for Mozilla. It has a spell checker that works very well. Google Mozilla Toolbar
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For everyone that is on dial-up and uses IE and doesn't use the 1/6/12/24/48 hour features that TBN provides(I don't know why you wouldn't), try this...
Load the main index page.
RIGHT CLICK on the fourm that you want to browse and choose "Open in new window".
This pops open a new IE window and that forum loads in it. If you want to go back to the main menu, just click on your window that has it open already.
You can open a forum, go back to the main menu window, open another forum window, go back to the main menu window and then open a third window with another forum, etc...
Then go back to the first forum you opened and read it while the others load, etc...
This is much easier with Firefox and the "Open in new tab" feature, but some folks have not downloaded Firefox, yet.
Anyhow, face it... we are on dial up and we need to use the resources we have to maximize our time reading and not waiting. We all have the tools available to do this. Some of us either choose not to use them or don't know about them yet.
Load the main index page.
RIGHT CLICK on the fourm that you want to browse and choose "Open in new window".
This pops open a new IE window and that forum loads in it. If you want to go back to the main menu, just click on your window that has it open already.
You can open a forum, go back to the main menu window, open another forum window, go back to the main menu window and then open a third window with another forum, etc...
Then go back to the first forum you opened and read it while the others load, etc...
This is much easier with Firefox and the "Open in new tab" feature, but some folks have not downloaded Firefox, yet.
Anyhow, face it... we are on dial up and we need to use the resources we have to maximize our time reading and not waiting. We all have the tools available to do this. Some of us either choose not to use them or don't know about them yet.
BillyP
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Thanks Ron. I downloaded the toolbar and it works perfect. I even got my AutoFill back /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Highbeam
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I killed the ad by disabling the macromedia device using a toggle in the "manage add-ons" section under the tools button on top of my IE. Way better, JD is not helping themselves with this.
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Hakim, I appreciate your thorough explanation of the 'slow-down' issues experienced by some (including myself). But, I must ask the obvious question. If our hardware, software, and configuration are to blame, why did it only start after the John Deere ad was implemented ?
Personally, I am on Direcway Satellite and TBN main index loads so slow that I can barely use the site. I usually have to load the site and walk away. I come back in about five minutes and then use the 6 or 12 hour buttons. Going back to the index is no longer and option for me.
I fully support using ads on TBN, but this one is really killing my ability to use the site.
Personally, I am on Direcway Satellite and TBN main index loads so slow that I can barely use the site. I usually have to load the site and walk away. I come back in about five minutes and then use the 6 or 12 hour buttons. Going back to the index is no longer and option for me.
I fully support using ads on TBN, but this one is really killing my ability to use the site.
Hakim
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Jerry,
Not everyone has experienced slow down in their access to TBN during this ad campaign.
Most ordinary users have little or no technical knowledge of computers to speak of (and especially dial-up users). Generally speaking, they do nothing at all to adjust, tweak or optimize their settings that their computer arrived with. I am not trying to offend anyone; this is just the fact of access for a significant percentage of all users, not just TBN members.
Moreover, most people who use the factory setup of their computer have various layers of "helper" apps like spyware and virus checkers, e-mail scripts and many other programs, that all can add time to the "surfing experience." They do not even know what is running, and cannot be expected to go inside their Windows OS settings to make proper changes.
Yes, the Deere ad does place greater demand on resources. But we cannot try and optimize every different user's setups, because there are many hundreds of them, all different.
The entire "Internet experience" at the moment is in a kind of midway stage -- where maybe 65% or so of users now have broadband; but at least 25% or more have dial-up.
Knowing that more than 50% of home users now have broadband, many companies have opened the flood gates as it were, and want to create the most aggressive and challenging apps, like complex Java script banners, video and audio inserts into web pages and e-mail, etc.
Personally I do not agree with this development, because so many people, literally tens of millions, are still "struggling along with computers that are several years old, and less than maximum access speeds.
We are on an Adelphia cable special high speed link, which supposedly provides around 5 megs/sec download and around 1 mg upload. Our tests indicate these are actual speeds for the most part.
So obviously, we do not experience much if any problems with loading times.
It is not an easy thing to tweak one's system settings to get maximum performance out of an Internet connection. Digital satellite definitely has what is known as "latency problems" meaning time lag between a call of a page and the actual download. Since virtually every page that is "called" from TBN is made new, you probably are going to have the worst possible experience using satellite connection.
Having said all that, we are aware of the issues; one of our problems is that the people who actually place the ads for the John Deere company, are not the same office that makes the banner ads. Ad agencies and artistic people are famous for going way overboard with their "creative."
If Muhammad had access to the actual code being used on the Deere banners, he could easily optimize it. But that is not possible for this campaign.
Believe me, he will be speaking with all of the people on the client side, and make them aware of the problems this particular campaign has caused. He has various suggestions for how the speed issues can be improved for those with limited speed access.
In the meantime, the "solution" is to shut off banners, turn off Java script. Then the Deere ad would have no effect on your surfing experience, except you would not see the ads.
Or you can search on Google for the key words or phrase "speed up Internet access". Lots of things to try.
Hope this helps.
Not everyone has experienced slow down in their access to TBN during this ad campaign.
Most ordinary users have little or no technical knowledge of computers to speak of (and especially dial-up users). Generally speaking, they do nothing at all to adjust, tweak or optimize their settings that their computer arrived with. I am not trying to offend anyone; this is just the fact of access for a significant percentage of all users, not just TBN members.
Moreover, most people who use the factory setup of their computer have various layers of "helper" apps like spyware and virus checkers, e-mail scripts and many other programs, that all can add time to the "surfing experience." They do not even know what is running, and cannot be expected to go inside their Windows OS settings to make proper changes.
Yes, the Deere ad does place greater demand on resources. But we cannot try and optimize every different user's setups, because there are many hundreds of them, all different.
The entire "Internet experience" at the moment is in a kind of midway stage -- where maybe 65% or so of users now have broadband; but at least 25% or more have dial-up.
Knowing that more than 50% of home users now have broadband, many companies have opened the flood gates as it were, and want to create the most aggressive and challenging apps, like complex Java script banners, video and audio inserts into web pages and e-mail, etc.
Personally I do not agree with this development, because so many people, literally tens of millions, are still "struggling along with computers that are several years old, and less than maximum access speeds.
We are on an Adelphia cable special high speed link, which supposedly provides around 5 megs/sec download and around 1 mg upload. Our tests indicate these are actual speeds for the most part.
So obviously, we do not experience much if any problems with loading times.
It is not an easy thing to tweak one's system settings to get maximum performance out of an Internet connection. Digital satellite definitely has what is known as "latency problems" meaning time lag between a call of a page and the actual download. Since virtually every page that is "called" from TBN is made new, you probably are going to have the worst possible experience using satellite connection.
Having said all that, we are aware of the issues; one of our problems is that the people who actually place the ads for the John Deere company, are not the same office that makes the banner ads. Ad agencies and artistic people are famous for going way overboard with their "creative."
If Muhammad had access to the actual code being used on the Deere banners, he could easily optimize it. But that is not possible for this campaign.
Believe me, he will be speaking with all of the people on the client side, and make them aware of the problems this particular campaign has caused. He has various suggestions for how the speed issues can be improved for those with limited speed access.
In the meantime, the "solution" is to shut off banners, turn off Java script. Then the Deere ad would have no effect on your surfing experience, except you would not see the ads.
Or you can search on Google for the key words or phrase "speed up Internet access". Lots of things to try.
Hope this helps.
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Excellent response ! Thanks
