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JDgreen227 · Jul 31, 2004

JEEZ....I would NEVER pay that inane price for transport to the dealership and back, and to me it sounds like they are also charging you way too much for the service itself. If you are able to change your own oil and filter, anything else should be within your abilities. I went through the 50 hour service on my 4210 with no problems except for one, whoever installed the drain plug on the hydro case torqued it to about 85 foot pounds ( !! ).

Be sure to get at least one gallon extra of hydro fluid than the manual says the refill capacity will be, and have enough drain pans to handle the old fluid plus another two gallons above what you expect will drain out. I'm not sure if your 4110 has a suction screen to be cleaned like my JD required, but if so, be sure you have a new gasket for the housing. Also, be sure to have a strap wrench for the hydro filter(s).

I used engine degreaser to clean my suction screen, it's the best parts cleaner I have ever used, not very flammable and you rinse it off with water. The manual says to use a non-flammable solvent...does anyone know of a solvent that IS actually non-flammable?

The best thing about doing your own service work is the more you do, the more confidence you have in your abilities. I've been disappointed enough in the past, paying up to $75 an hour for careless work-- that I will cheerfully undertake any service or repair jobs I consider myself capable of.

garchib · Jul 31, 2004

They may have changed the service interval since the 4100, but in my 4100 HST manual it says to only change the oil at 50 hours !? I have 130 hours and my tractor is running like a top....I have changed the oil twice and I have greased it every 10 hours. My local JD tractor guru says change the oil once a year and keep it greased......I plan on changing everything else when the manual states. On a side note, the only truck I ever changed tranny fluid on, had the tranny fail at 50k miles, so on the vehicle front, I am back to simply chaning the oil and skipping everything else /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

stuart · Aug 3, 2004

I have a 4300 and the Hydraulic fluid does not get changed till 200 hours. I looked again and that is correct. Have they changed the recommendations on the 4310 model to include the change at 50 hours?

DK_Farms · Aug 3, 2004

I had my 4610 serviced at 60 hours at my dealer. Timing around other projects and the fact that my shop isn't finished yet was the prime reason for letting them do it. However, they won't do it at next service interval. They hit me up for a total of $414 and I delivered and picked up the tractor myself. Filters and oil totaled $180. They changed engine, hydraulic, and MFWD fluids and all the filters, including fuel. They also charged me for a tube of grease to lube the loader and tractor. Labor was 3 hours at $65/hr for a total of $195. They also charged $10 for shop rags, absorbent towels, and waste oil disposal. The rest is taxes. On a good note, they didn't charge me for leveling the loader bucket, that was covered under warranty. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif I'm more disgusted with myself than my dealer, however, because I am totally capable of doing all this myself. Oh, well.

Koby · Aug 3, 2004

My manual also says 50 hrs, but the dealer said 200. He must have been thinking of the older service interval spec.
Anyway, I'm glad I did it at 50 hrs. The suction screen housing on the 4110 has an o-ring, not a gasket. Mine was in fine shape, so I cleaned and re-installed it. Good thing, as I had no replacement! Just be sure not to lose the o-ring in the drain oil (ask me how I know).

bigpete · Aug 11, 2004

Good work, Matt. Once you take care of it yourself, you'll never question whether you should pay a shop fee, or not, for routine maintenance again.

stuart · Aug 12, 2004

Matt; What model tractor do you have . You said that your manual suggested hydro change at 50 hours.

Docsknotinn · Aug 12, 2004

Glad to hear you were able to do it yourself. It just is more satisfying than paying someone else. I would NEVER pay those delivery and pick up charges unless you live a loooong ways away. IMO they should have picked it up for free and returned it for free to do your warranty work. The JD warranty does not say if you can do it yourself come and get the parts. Warranty is for parts and labor. If they delivered your tractor they should come and get it for warranty work. Seems like they shorted themselves out of $400 by trying to hijack you on the delivery fees.

bigpete · Aug 12, 2004

Stuart--I'll jump in cuz' it seems Matt actually has something to do this afternoon, which I do not /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif His tractor is a 4110. I cannot say this for certain, but I think almost all JD CUT hydros call for a tranny oil change after the first 50 hours, and every 200 hours thereafter.