Dented Hood Help!

[fishman]

Wow, that is really a pretty 'bota! Mine is all dirty.

When my tractor was still quite new, my dad managed to drop a few bricks out of the back of the FEL while messing around with the controls. Now, when I look at the dents, they remind me of him /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Just glad he wasn't hurt.

Anyway, if it isn't a structural problem, and I doubt it is, I would either get a new hood or just not worry about it. Maybe this is the point where you can kiss your waxing duties goodbye.

Your tractor still looks purty! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[cmhyland]

Viper,
That crossbar hit the hood. I had the same dent after 2 hours of use. I went to put the loader on and the kickstands were not on a solid surface. I couldn't get the loader to line up.

In the process of hitting the hood it snapped a loader hose.

What a mess.

Good luck... A new hood is about 350... You can get it fixed at a bodyshop for less...

Best of luck,
Chris

 

[jrlichina]

I don't recall anywhere in any of Viper's posts that it happened when installing or removing the loader. In fact he stated it happened when operating the loader. I'm sure if it was from the crossbar he would have noticed it hitting the hood when installing or removing the loader. Sounds like you should see if any of the frontend sheet metal is hitting the loader arms or if the grill assembly is contacting some part of the loader. Have someone operate the loader while you watch for interference.

 

[viper]

Your right I was operating the loader not installing it. Farm Service in Lynchburg Va is coming out next week to take a look at it. I'm not sure when exactly but I will keep you all posted. Thanks again. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[TresCrows]

"I don't recall anywhere in any of Viper's posts that it happened when installing or removing the loader. In fact he stated it happened when operating the loader. I'm sure if it was from the crossbar he would have noticed it hitting the hood when installing or removing the loader. Sounds like you should see if any of the frontend sheet metal is hitting the loader arms or if the grill assembly is contacting some part of the loader. Have someone operate the loader while you watch for interference. "

Yes, I know what he said and what I am saying is that we are missing some information because as explained--it is IMPOSSIBLE. Either he or the dealer removed the loader at some point and at some point in that removal or reattachment the loader struck the hood. There is plenty of clearence from the hood to the cross brace once installed and if you don't forget to put the kickstands down when removing. Picking the front of the tractor up with the loader is a normal loader operation and in NO WAY could cause the tractor frame to flex or the hood to dent. We are missing something here.
Last night my wife called me at work in a panic, she had gone to the store and when she came back she says the cabinet dorrs, the china cabinet door etc were open. I told her to get out of the house and call the police from her cell or the neighbors. The police came and told her that no one had been in the house because nothing was taken. The dogs were in the backyard-----hmm, well doors don't just open, the police were very helpful, my wife is not a nut soooo we are clearly missing some information, drawers don't just open and hoods don't just get dents in them. Neither my wife nor Viper I am sure is a liar so so there is a piece to the puzzle in both cases missing. J

 

[jrlichina]

Well your statement saying it was the crossbar of the loader with complete certainty is bogus. Unless you have some crystal ball or something. Yes we all pick up our front end with the loader, but that doesn't mean that the loader frame couldn't have moved touching the front grill and bending the hood. Anything is possible, and yes more info is needed.

 

[dwynn]

Sound's like that Viper' is snake bit

 

[JWE]

Is it possible that when you lifted the front end the hood latch released from the torque and the hood flew open hitting the cross bar. Maybe the hood bounced off the crossbar and re-latched itself. It could have happened so quickly that you may not have seen it.

Groping for straws!!!

John

 

[JerryG]

If the hood was latched and if the loader was pinned, the only way that the cross bar could have made contact with the hood is if the frame flexed. The frame would have had to flex like a jack knife, which it can't do to that extent. I am with TC on everything he said. AND there is something that is missing here.

 

[TresCrows]

"Well your statement saying it was the crossbar of the loader with complete certainty is bogus. Unless you have some crystal ball or something. Yes we all pick up our front end with the loader, but that doesn't mean that the loader frame couldn't have moved touching the front grill and bending the hood. Anything is possible, and yes more info is needed. "

I want enter into accusations, it is simply impossible. The loader frame does not flex. Further, it is a cliche that everything is possible--I must dissagree--some things are in fact impossible.
The hood cannot touch the loader cross bar either if it comes unlatched if the loader is installed and pinned--yes--the hood can be fully opened with the loader attached but it does get somewhat close. Hey, another possibility though remote, the hood was open and the wind --a really strong wind--blew it back with such force that the hood flexed enough to strike the cross bar. I guess something like that or similar could happen but the loader frame flexing--no way. I think if the frame were loose enough to move that much--quiet a bit then he would have noticed that the loader was about to fall off.
Bogus--whatever /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
Anyone with a picture of their Kubota with the wheels lifted by the loader have a flexible frame?--please show me the picture of the wheels lifted and the cross bar agaisnt the hood and the loader frame arms flexed--OK. Mine flexes---NONE---ZERO--virtually umeasureable. J

 

[TresCrows]

Since I made the double dog dare, I will start, the following pics show my 2410 and loader and hood relationship. J

 

[TresCrows]

The previous pic shows the hood held full open, notice it is close but there is room and that the cross bar is lower than the dented location on Vipers unit. Let's explore the next pic /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif. J

 

[TresCrows]

In the previous pic I showed that there was a fist clearence between the cross bar and the hood when the hood is closed. Ok, what's next you may ask? J

 

[TresCrows]

Ok then, in the previous pic I show my 'bota lifted nearly 10 inches from the ground using the FEL. Notice there is nothing---nothing remotely close to striking the hood and there is nothing flexing as has been alluded to as "anything is possible". Onward and upward fellow tractor dudes. J

 

[TresCrows]

In the previous pic I use a wax bottle for scale demontrating that the tractor is off the ground, note the frame is NOT flexed. Note in the attached pic that now the loader is lifted upward and that again there IS NO clearence issue with the hood or anything else. Now, anyone with a picture that can show their tractor with the cross brace, hood guard, bucket striking the hood in NORMAL use while pinned or the loader frame flexed so greviously as that the hood would be struck by ANY part of the loader I would be glad to see it. J

 

[jrlichina]

Hmm first you say it was the crossbar and now you say it couldn't be the crossbar. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[XmasTreeGrower]

Well here's some more evidence of what most likely happened.

Look at the attached pic of my dented hood in the exact same location. I did it while attempting to take my loader off the first time without referring to the manual. If the loader legs are not down and locked properly, the cross bar rotates forward as you lift the front end, and before you realize what's happening, makes a nice pair of dimples when it hits your hood.

I can assure you I was highly PO'd at myself for denting my new tractor with less than 5 hours on it, but had to chalk it up to "operator error"

Look closely just above the "A" in KUBOTA in the picture for a familiar looking dent. There is a matching dent on the other side of the hood.

Thanks
Bill

 

[Inspector507]

Looks like the same dents. But viper said it did NOT happen while mounting or dismounting the loader......But personally I don't know how else it could have happened.

 

[JerryG]

Photos combined.

 

[TresCrows]

"Hmm first you say it was the crossbar and now you say it couldn't be the crossbar. "

Nope, not what I said, what I said was that in removing the loader if you forget to put the kick stands down and then raise the loader off the frame it will pop up and then fall into nearly the exact place those dents are located and as I also said this very nearly happened to me but I was able to grab it since I stand beside the tractor and operate the loader when removing it. It took all my strength and I hurt my back keeping it from crushing into the hood. This is like the OJ trial /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif. J