Did Chrysler beat GM to the punch?

   / Did Chrysler beat GM to the punch? #1  

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This is in regards to the recent recall. GM got a black eye on the recent ignition switch problem. It appears if something is hanging from your keys it would make the key turn the ignition off which can cause problems depending on traffic and road conditions. It looks like a simple fix was to put an insert in the key so other keys hanging by the ignition key had less leverage helping the problem. GM has known about the problem for several years and did nothing about it and some people have died as the result.

Enter Chrysler. I own a Dodge Challenger and there have been cases where the timing chain will break. Not a common problem but as people get more miles on them it's happening more often. When the chain breaks the engine dies along with engine failure, bent valves and push rods at the least. Often the engine is replaced but sometimes just new heads. It looks like the timing chain guides are plastic and is probably the cause of the failure although if you read the forums, lots of speculation. They are recalling Challengers, Chargers and 300C's from 2009, 2010, and some 2011. Only the auto transmissions are recalled. This recall started about a month ago.

The Chrysler problem is small compared to GM but I think Chrysler saw the upcoming storm for GM and tried the get in under the radar with their recall first. It's my understanding the GM fix was $1 per unit. I'm not sure of the Chrysler cost per unit but the front of the motor has to come off to replace the timing chain and guide. My car goes in in two weeks.
 
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I think you see this happen all the time. When Toyota had the big recall my Nissan got one a few days later of fuel gauge sending units. They gave me 3 free oil changes, 3 free tire rotations, and free car washes.

Every one has recalls. It's all about how it's handled.

Chris
 
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The news coming out about GM hiding this is getting pretty bad now. And the number of deaths are estimated in the hundreds by some. This is going to make the Ford Explorer and Toyota recalls look like small issues before all is said and done. Some things I'm seeing make it more clear why GM pushed so hard to separate the 'old GM' from the 'new GM' for future warranties and claims when they went through bankruptcy. This won't be good for anyone except the lawyers.
 
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I think you see this happen all the time. When Toyota had the big recall my Nissan got one a few days later of fuel gauge sending units. They gave me 3 free oil changes, 3 free tire rotations, and free car washes. Every one has recalls. It's all about how it's handled. Chris

GM has been handling the ignition recall pretty poorly so far. Our local dealer knows nothing about the memo sent to dealers on March 4 that allows owners of affected vehicles to use a loaner car until the parts are available and get $500 cash back on a new car, towing etc. Called GM customer service and they also had no knowledge of the memo and said they couldn't comment (it's posted on NHTSA's website. http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs/jaxrs/download/doc/UCM451420/RCMN-14V047-7733.pdf ).

USA Today, CBS and just about every other news organization wrote a news story on the memo, yet the company who wrote it doesn't even acknowledge it.
 
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If they keep going like that they (GM) will soon be in charge of the IRS and the State Dept. They have a lot in common.
 
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I'll never buy another GM vehicle. Jacked up company.

By the way... Why isn't the government drilling GM like they did Toyota? Oh wait.. That Toyota lynch mob was from Michigan! Lol
 
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You do have to wonder. GM knew about the problem dating back to 2001. Now after only a couple of months have passed after the government sold the last of it's GM stock does this come out.
 
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I'll never buy another GM vehicle. Jacked up company.

By the way... Why isn't the government drilling GM like they did Toyota? Oh wait.. That Toyota lynch mob was from Michigan! Lol

Because the Government owns GM!

Chris
 
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You do have to wonder. GM knew about the problem dating back to 2001. Now after only a couple of months have passed after the government sold the last of it's GM stock does this come out.

They're also looking into why the government knew about this for years, and they did nothing until now. Seems obvious like you said.
 
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GM's offer of $500 to customers who wish to buy or lease a new car is a way for GM to sell more cars. In my opinion this is not a good deal for the customers that have these cars.
 

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