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Have you determined just what the oil in the exhaust is yet?

This is a wet sleeve engine?!!!!
With a dry sleeved engine and a misaligned headgasket you should find oil also in the cyl/s the oil gallery is closest to.

Do you have any glow plugs. If so you can do compression tests there.
 
   / did I break anything? #22  
It sure sounds to me as though you have an incorrect head gasket that is blocking the oil gallery and/or allowing coolant into the cylinders somewhere. As noted previously, there are a bunchof different but similar gaskets for these engines and a number of people have had issues with the wrong gasket causing problems.
 
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Most do a compression check through the glow plugs.

Chris
 
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I have ordered a new head gasket. and will compare it when it gets here. I could not see anything blocked or not covered, but I did not pay attention to how it came off. Maybe I had it on wrong.

The oil is very thin, like diesel, it was puddled up in the rear cylinder. as well as all over the head gasket. But that may have happened as I removed it. It also dumped easily out of the exhaust, almost like water, but did not smell like coolant. exhaust was covered with a can to keep amy rain out, I could not smell it, but had diesel all over me from removing the injectors and lines. So my guess is back to diesel. Maybe the rags would still smell tomorrow for a check?

I have no glow plugs I have a heater of sorts in the air intake pipe.
Someone mentioned that I might hook up the injectors upside down, and see if there is a good spray pattern leading me towards an Injection pump or leaking injector? but could I do this test with the head off? or wait until I get the head back on(pumping oil everywhere)?

And yes, this is a wet sleeved engine.
 
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Unless you have a cracked head it's not likely to be engine oil.
Or at least all wet sleeve engines I've ever seen had the oil gallery located in the outer edges of the engine block. Oil will leak to the outside (On to the ground) or into the water jacket and fill the coolant system before ever reaching a cyl.

Sounds to me like you've got a leaking or bad #3 (assuming it's a three cyl) injector.
Yes you'll want to wait and put the head back on before doing any home testing of those ejectors.
Or it's likely you could find a tester at say any diesel repair shop. I'm sure they'd check the opening pressures for little cost.

Warning do not put any fingers close to those injector tips while testing.
 
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If you have the injectors out of the head, I'd suggest taking them to a diesel shop and have them pop tested. They can tell you if one of them is leaking or dribbling fuel into the cylinder as well as telling you the pressure they pop at. You want them all to be roughly the same pop pressure. I don't know if there is a spec published for the popping pressure from the factory or not. If there's any doubt about an injector, replace it with a new one. They aren't that expensive and they're absolutely critical to the good running and easy starting of any diesel engine. If you mark the injectors as to which cylinder they came from you might find that the injector for the #3 cylinder is drooling, filling the cylinder with unburned fuel.
 
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I got the head gasket back on lastnight, and the rockers. I did this injector test, and the injectors at full throttle are shooting a fuel spray about 3-4 feet up in the air. A mist I would call it.
So, Am I assuming that this means the injectors and the pump are ok?
Also the air comming out of the engine through the injecor holes when cranking it seems to be about the same.
So tonight after work I and going to gap the rockers, and install the injectors and see if I can get it to actually start, and see if it sends liquid out of the exhaust again.
Could part of this hard start be low compression due to the new liners and rings? Or should it be close enough to start?
this is a 2 cylinder diesel, So I should be able to just get the piston to the top on the compression and adjust both valves. That is what I have been doing. the book is not much help.
Thanks
Doug
 
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this is a 2 cylinder diesel, So I should be able to just get the piston to the top on the compression and adjust both valves.

Maybe I misread your post, but it sounds like you said that by putting #1 at TDC, you could adjust both. If that's not what you meant then ignore the following and accept my apology for putting words in your mouth:

You need to put #1 on TDC of the compression stroke then adjust it's valve clearances.

Then move the #2 cylinder to TDC of it's compression stroke and adjust it's valve clearances.


Reading your posts tells me you are a very patient person. Good luck with your project.
 
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yes, that is what I meant, Adjust both valves for the cyl, then move to the next one.
I am about at wits end with this thing. I only use it a few times a year, to till and maintain the road. So I can not justify another one. And when I pull started it, it ran great.
Just got to get this fixed and till the garden... it is that time....
 
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one more note, the new head gasket is the same as the old, and does not cover any holes, or leave any bare block uncovered, so It has to be the correct one. That was one question from above that I did not answer.
 

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