Diesel engine oil only ?

[RalphVa]

My New Holland TC33D has a diesel engine. When changing the engine oil do I have to put in a specific oil for diesels or is it ok to use an regular oil that I put in my gas engine car like a Quaker State or Pennzoil? The owner's manual does not specify. It just says it should be 10w-30 oil for all year round.

Main (may be the only difference) between diesel oil and gasoline oil is more/different detergent to keep the additional soot from diesel engine piston ring blowby in solution. You could run a gas engine oil but change it sooner. For instance, most diesel engine oiled will go for 200 hours. If you use a gas engine oil, you should change maybe 1/2 that: 100 hours, certainly within a year's time.

A 10w30 oil is probably nothing more than the old fashioned 30w oil. You need more protection for your engine at startup. A 5w30 or 0w30 would allow the oil pump to get suction much quicker than using a 10w30. An engine starting up at 1,800 rpm would run the pistons up and down 30 times for each second, and the valve train will rotate about that many times with each valve going up and down 30 times. A 0w30 oil would get oil moving to even the valve train probably within about a 1/2 second even at -40 C/F. Anything heavier would not get the oil up there right away. I've seen this in tests our research labs showed with a transparent valve cover using various oils.

I'm currently using VW's Castrol 5w30 speced for its diesel engines (the 2010ish ones; they have about 4) for both my diesel engines after using it through six 10k mile oil changes in our VW TDI. However, I've found Mobil 1 makes an ESP (exhaust system protection) diesel oil with 0w30. May order it for the next oil changes on both, as VW doesn't offer low prices generally and sold only by litre/quart.

Ralph

 

[Texasmark]

As mentioned, you need a high detergent oil with a diesel rating (CJ I think is the latest)
Rotella T6 oil will work for gasoline and diesel engines. I use the 5W-40 Rotella T6 in everything, Evinrude 4cycle boat engine, Honda Goldwing motorcycle, cars, truck, motorhome and of course my tractors.

The 5W-40 is good for all season where I live, you may need a 0W-xx for your seasonal weather to make for easier starting in the winter. Consult the charts in your OEM manual for temperatures high and low to determine the correct oil.

I run 5w-40 T6 in my Bransons too. In my gas 2011 Silverado I run Mobil 1, 0w-30 which is only Spark rated, SN I think was the Delos II rating....when GM went from semi-syn Delos to the current, a couple of model years ago. I know of no heavy duty compression engine oils that spec 0 weather.......course I only know what I know and that's obviously limited.

 

[heavy hammer]

Check what the owners manual says but it probably will be 15w-40

 

[mguitas]

My New Holland TC33D has a diesel engine. When changing the engine oil do I have to put in a specific oil for diesels or is it ok to use an regular oil that I put in my gas engine car like a Quaker State or Pennzoil? The owner's manual does not specify. It just says it should be 10w-30 oil for all year round.

When I first purchase my 1423 that what I use too, gasoline oil. It didn't hurt it. Now it is diesel oil.

 

[nyone]

Check what the owners manual says but it probably will be 15w-40

In the first post he said the manual takes 10w30.

With that being said (i know its not the same) my 2009 accord says it needs 0w30 or 0w20. It use to burn almost 2 quarts per 1,500mi. I have been useing t6 5w40 and changing it at 1,500mi. This is the second oil change and its stopped useing oil. There was actualy a recal for burnt oil keeping the oil ring on the piston from staying free.

In the last year or two i have switched all my quads with and without wet clutches, everything diesel and most of my gas engines to rotella t6 5w40. I keep no more than 2 or 3 types of engine oil on hand now.

 

[RalphVa]

Check what the owners manual says but it probably will be 15w-40

Irregardless, if his manual says this, I'd use 0w or 5w40 but prefer 0w or 5w30. The manual may have been written before 0w and 5w40 was available. You can readily get T6 in most stores that keep oil on sale. Can get 0w30 Mobil1 ESP online. Think this will be for my next changes.

Ralph

 

[RjCorazza]

In the first post he said the manual takes 10w30.

With that being said (i know its not the same) my 2009 accord says it needs 0w30 or 0w20. It use to burn almost 2 quarts per 1,500mi. I have been useing t6 5w40 and changing it at 1,500mi. This is the second oil change and its stopped useing oil. There was actualy a recal for burnt oil keeping the oil ring on the piston from staying free.

In the last year or two i have switched all my quads with and without wet clutches, everything diesel and most of my gas engines to rotella t6 5w40. I keep no more than 2 or 3 types of engine oil on hand now.

Sounds like my wife’s toyota... using 0w20 and it burns about a quart every 1500 miles. I now use 5w30 and it does much better, about 1/2 qt every 3k miles.
I also refuse to use 5w20 in my F250 6.2L, and it gets 5w30 also.

 

[Cat_Driver]

I bet I've a few thousand threads on dozens of sites over the last 30 plus years and I have NEVER EVER read that someone used a "BAD OIL".
NADA, nothing, zilch. From the worst .99 cent oil to the $6.00 a quart oil no one has ever posted a thread that I read that said " I used XXXX oil and my engine blew up" So every time someone asks about oil, my answer is "does it really matter" As long as you follow the manufacturers specs and intervals, it doesn't matter.

 

[Buggs67]

FWIW: I stopped using 5W-30 in our cars that recommended it. I've read that the MFG spec's it to increase the MPG for Gov't ratings. I use 5W-40 or 10W40 full synthetic for the performance vehicles.

The tractor gets Rotella 15W-40 (our winters are mild and it's inside with a block heater).

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[Buggs67]

x2. Jeeze, the guy just asked a question!