diesel for generator

[Soundguy]

Some of those military ones are air cooled and man that makes them wicked loud, as they equip them with over engineered air cooling.
I guess they figure less to go wrong with the air cooling.

After hearing one though I would much prefer the liquid cooled.

JB

i've heard a bif deutz on a genny.. and we have one at work on a large water pump.

soundguy

 

[Boeing]

I can presume that Mr. Black was joking about all engines being air cooled but I'll bite......many, many engines are water cooled with internal pumps to make the water flow. OK, I couldn't stand it.
Now about noise.....I had an ONAN generator in a cabin cruiser that had a small water pump and drew sea water, pumped it thru the little bitty block and head and... this is the cool part...the EXHAUST discharged into the water being expelled. You could barely hear that generator run. Sure wish there was some way to have a portable water muffled generator......hhmmmm? How about mounting a 55 gal barrel and have the exhaust bubble down into it? hhhmmm......like eating beans and sitting in a bath tub:

 

[JB4310]

I can presume that Mr. Black was joking about all engines being air cooled but I'll bite......many, many engines are water cooled with internal pumps to make the water flow. OK, I couldn't stand it.
Now about noise.....I had an ONAN generator in a cabin cruiser that had a small water pump and drew sea water, pumped it thru the little bitty block and head and... this is the cool part...the EXHAUST discharged into the water being expelled. You could barely hear that generator run. Sure wish there was some way to have a portable water muffled generator......hhmmmm? How about mounting a 55 gal barrel and have the exhaust bubble down into it? hhhmmm......like eating beans and sitting in a bath tub:

I think he meant even liquid cooled engines use air thru the radiators to cool the water, so in a way an acurate statement. The exeption being raw water cooled marine engines like you mentioned.

JB.

 

[DarkBlack]

Exactly. "water cooled" water/air radiator engines are cooled by air the same as "air cooled" engines. They only use liquid as a heat transfer medium. They still require the same volume/density/temperature of air to absorb the heat.
Any gen set as discussed that won't warranty off grid use is just a poor excuse for an inadequate design.
Off grid users normally onl run long enough to charge batteries anyways.
Any temp rise in a good engine design will have stabalized well before 1 hour of running, due to a properly sized fan and exchange area, and the non-waranty is more likely a fear of low quality parts and the cumulative toll of vibrations without hydraulic dampening.

 

[DieselSJ]

I just emailed the distributor and asked why off road can't be used in their generators and here is their reply.

The person who answered you knows not of what they speak.

 

[dlabrie]

Well It arrived in great condition. I filled it with oil and fuel, bled the line, charged and hooked up the battery and she started right up. I have run it for about 5 hours so far to break it in.
It has been running very well. The only thing that is wrong is the solenoid that trips the shut off lever doesn't work, I have to do it manually. They are going to send another. So far, so good.

 

[Boeing]

It looks good.....how long did it take to get it?
ALSO......what did that solinoid do? Shut down with a lever? Sorry I don't understand...... You shut it down manually.....what does that mean? Is there a fuel valve where it would starve in a few seconds? After your "break in" will you change oil and to what? synthetic or some special type?
Thanks

 

[dlabrie]

It looks good.....how long did it take to get it?
ALSO......what did that solinoid do? Shut down with a lever? Sorry I don't understand...... You shut it down manually.....what does that mean? Is there a fuel valve where it would starve in a few seconds? After your "break in" will you change oil and to what? synthetic or some special type?
Thanks

It took about a week for it to be delivered to a warehouse about an hour from my home. I put it in the back of my RAV4. It was pretty heavy, but manageable.

There is a manual lever that you can use to shut off the generator (how it works, I don't know) you just press it down. Attached to it is a cable going to a solenoid, the solenoid is activated when you turn the ignition switch to the off position it pulls on the cable that is attached to the lever and shuts it down. The solenoid is not working. I have been waiting for almost 2 weeks for it.

Break in requires dino oil and after break in synthetic oil is specified.

It looks like a pretty good rig. I have just about finished installing a transfer switch and remote plug to use when the power goes out.

 

[Dargo]

It took about a week for it to be delivered to a warehouse about an hour from my home. I put it in the back of my RAV4. It was pretty heavy, but manageable.

There is a manual lever that you can use to shut off the generator (how it works, I don't know) you just press it down. Attached to it is a cable going to a solenoid, the solenoid is activated when you turn the ignition switch to the off position it pulls on the cable that is attached to the lever and shuts it down. The solenoid is not working. I have been waiting for almost 2 weeks for it.

Break in requires dino oil and after break in synthetic oil is specified.

It looks like a pretty good rig. I have just about finished installing a transfer switch and remote plug to use when the power goes out.

You're wiring it to your house?? Wow, it seems awfully small for anything like that (I have two larger ones that I never considered using a transfer switch) and I flat out am very skeptical of how clean the power output would be on a Chinese bargain unit. I wish you the best of luck, but I spent almost 10 years researching before I bought me a whole house generator. Not one single electrical contractor, union or non-union, said that they would hook up a Chinese unit to their home.

Hopefully they've improved. Having just gone through my 2nd homeowner's insurance claim in 26 years with State Farm (cannot recommend them!), I know for a fact that they deny electrical claims when a Chinese generator was used and transformers got toasted. You may want to make a call to your insurance agent. It could save you tens of thousands in denied claims or it could give you something in writing (I'd ask for approval for a Chinese generator running items in my house in writing; not verbal). Good luck!

 

[dex3361]

I run my Aurora generator at my house and the computer big screen TV microwave etc did just fine. No over heating wall wart transformers. I checked the quality of the power and it was pretty good for a portable generator. I test ran my generator at my house under normal conditions to make sure it worked. I have since used it during power outages and have no issues. I was surprised how long it ran on a tank of fuel.