Diesel Fueling

   / Diesel Fueling #11  
I'm not sure if it applies to private applications, but in commercial applications, I think above ground systems also have to have a containment system under them large enough to hold the total amount of liquid stored. This would be in case the tank failed, all of the fuel wouldn't just flow all over the place.

I know many commercial facilites have gone back to above ground storage just because of the hassles with the regulations concerning in ground tank systems.
 
   / Diesel Fueling #12  
<font color=blue>I'm not sure if it applies to private applications</font color=blue>

Yeah, Garry, I don't know either. In fact, all I know about the whole topic is what I've read here on TBN. Maybe somebody out there can come up with the definitive answer.
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   / Diesel Fueling #13  
Harv

Over here we have outlawed scales /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
 
   / Diesel Fueling #14  
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in commercial applications, I think above ground systems also have to have a containment system under them large enough to hold the total amount of liquid stored. This would be in case the tank failed, all of the fuel wouldn't just flow all over the place.

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It seems to me like the catchment is the important part. As to having 5 more feet worth of gravity... Seems like 55 gallons at 20,883,555 ft instead of 20,883,550 ft isn't that big a deal. And what about them poor folks up in the mountains? Or the folks who live further north than I do, since there's about 70,000 ft difference in the radius of the earth at the poles vice the equator.

Seriously, if it gets out, it's going somewhere, and that's down. The only difference the height of the fluid head makes is how fast it gets out, which is quite easily made up for by the alternative to gravity feed - the pump.
 
   / Diesel Fueling #15  
Have you thought about adding a filter/water trap to the outlet? I can see it's tilted back - assuming for water settling - but I think I'd still put in a filter.
mike
 
   / Diesel Fueling #16  
Harv,
While every State may be different, I found this (after following about a million links) for the State of Kansas: (AST is Above ground Storage Tank)

ASTs considered regulation exempt include:
! Any tank associated with oil production, pipelines, or refining.
! Commercial tanks less than 660 gallons.
! Noncommercial fuel tanks or those used for farm and ranch purposes, which are less than 1,100 gallons.
! Any tank used to store heating oil for a single family residence.


The "Noncommercial fuel tanks ... less than 1,100 gallons" should cover most of us.

There may also be some more stringent city regulations in some of the larger municipalities. This complete text of this document can be seen <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.kdhe.state.ks.us/nps/resources/notes_ww/ustrevs.pdf>here</A>.

Hoss
 
   / Diesel Fueling #17  
In Wisconsin, Above Ground Fuel Tanks that dispense the contents by gravity feed are illegal. Here's a link to the Wisconsin information page for both Underground and Above ground tanks - <A target="_blank" HREF=http://commerce.state.wi.us/ER/ER-BST-ResTk.html>Wisconsin Codes</A>
 
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Yeah - was in a hurry to get it up. Out of Fuel. Bought one at the CO-OP this weekend.
 
   / Diesel Fueling #20  
My folks had a similiar setup on the ranch when I was a kid only it was for mogas.

Had a bung on top (side of drum) and the fuel distributor would swing by every couple weeks or so, pull out his ladder, fill 'er up and stick the bill in the door; or give it to me to take to my Mom! /w3tcompact/icons/cool.gif
 

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