Diesel Pickups in the snow and those front hooks

[grsthegreat]

what haas all this got to do with hooks on a bumper haha


dont ya just love how a post will get changes. in a few more pages well be arguing over who makes a better computer

 

[k0ua]

IF you don't have the 'window sticker' aka 'line setting ticket' there should be one tucked under the springs of the front seat. This will list all the options and components of your truck including gear ratios.

The glove box on his GM vehicle will have the RPO codes sticker.. check and see if the G80 code is listed, this will tell you if it has the "gov lock" locker or not in the rear end.

 

[diesel lover]

The glove box on his GM vehicle will have the RPO codes sticker.. check and see if the G80 code is listed, this will tell you if it has the "gov lock" locker or not in the rear end.

The factory G80 is actually a good automatic limited slip differential for low torque low speed.

 

[k0ua]

The factory G80 is actually a good automatic limited slip differential for low torque low speed.

yeah, mine has been useful a couple of times. It is not an ARB air locker or anything like that, but for general use it can get you up out of the hole.

 

[diesel lover]

The factory G80 is actually a good automatic limited slip differential for low torque low speed.

http://youtu.be/xdND6o9Vsqo
http://youtu.be/f31WBscnFh0
http://youtu.be/URuFkk-KE5g

The first video shares a simple explanation of how well the eaton G80 locker works. It only takes one full revolution of a wheel spinning and both wheels lock together

 

[LD1]

So i guess the wheel that sitting on the dry pavement just dosen't realise its getting the same amount of power as its partner on the other side of the axel that's spinning in the mud and not making the truck move. Wonder why they sell those fancy locker thingeys,just a gimmick i guess.

It realizes that it is getting the same amount of power. Infact, the exact same amount. But if you are stuck in the mud and one wheel is spinning, it apparently takes less power to spin that wheel than it does to move the truck. Thats the point. An open diff wont let a different amount of power go to each wheel. Therefore, it dont take much power to spin the one wheel, so the other side wont see enough power to move the truck. "IF" the truck had differential brakes like a tractor, you could apply brakes to that one wheel, therefore requiring more mower to "spin", and therefore more power to the wheel on pavement. With ABS, you could just apply the brakes and gas at the same time as earlier mentioned. The computer will think the wheel that isnt spinning is actually locked up skidding, and it will apply brakes to the ones that are spinning.

In a case of having one wheel wheel on pavement and one on ice or in a mud hole, a limited slip or posi would certainly be better. As they maintain equal speed (but not equal power) to each wheel. But in most cases, unless you are offroading, traction between the wheels is going to be about the same. And a limited slip wont help much at all.

what haas all this got to do with hooks on a bumper haha

Absolutely nothing at all. But I wasnt the one who brought up differentials. But felt compelled to comment when mis-information was being posted.

 

[bandaidmd]

what haas all this got to do with hooks on a bumper haha


dont ya just love how a post will get changes. in a few more pages well be arguing over who makes a better computer

HAHA Actually this is still on topic from the original post, hasn't even morphed into brand bashing.

 

[oldballs]

What works for me....'99 F250 XL- V-8, Ext cab, 6 3/4 ft bed, 2 WD, LS, 500 lb sand bags against tail gate (blocked in), Firestone Revo Dueler A/T, Side mounted tool Boxes (another 100 lbs total), and 3/4 in clevis hitches for front tow hooks. Works fine in snow...not so good in mud.

 

[LD1]

yeah, mine has been useful a couple of times. It is not an ARB air locker or anything like that, but for general use it can get you up out of the hole.

The G80 is good if you know how it works. My old chevy had one, and I could feel it when pushing back a snow pile. As one wheel started to spin, I could feel the other bite and get just a little more push out of it.

But since the G80 works on a difference in wheel speeds to engage, one tire has to spin a little before the other kicks in. Once it is engaged, it will take everything you can give it. But the issues with those is people not understanding that. ANd being stuck, just dropping from drive to reverse and nailing the gas trying to rock. Well when you just nail the gas, The one wheel starts spinning very fast, and then when the G80 engages the other side, it is rough on it. And it can turn into the "gov-bomb" as everyone calls it.

Oh, and the G80, you cant tell if you have it by jacking up the rear and spinning one tire and seeing which way the other goes. Cause it will act like an open diff. You have to look for the RPO code, or there is an other way, but more dangerous...With the rears in the air, and in 2wd, have someone put it in gear and try to maintain a slow speed, like 5 mph. With your hands and heavy gloves, try to stop one of the tires. IF an open diff, you CAN, and the other will be running twice as fast. If it has a G80, you can start slow the one tire and the other speeds up, but then it will engage and you cant stop the tire.

 

[k0ua]

The G80 is good if you know how it works. My old chevy had one, and I could feel it when pushing back a snow pile. As one wheel started to spin, I could feel the other bite and get just a little more push out of it.

But since the G80 works on a difference in wheel speeds to engage, one tire has to spin a little before the other kicks in. Once it is engaged, it will take everything you can give it. But the issues with those is people not understanding that. ANd being stuck, just dropping from drive to reverse and nailing the gas trying to rock. Well when you just nail the gas, The one wheel starts spinning very fast, and then when the G80 engages the other side, it is rough on it. And it can turn into the "gov-bomb" as everyone calls it.

Oh, and the G80, you cant tell if you have it by jacking up the rear and spinning one tire and seeing which way the other goes. Cause it will act like an open diff. You have to look for the RPO code, or there is an other way, but more dangerous...With the rears in the air, and in 2wd, have someone put it in gear and try to maintain a slow speed, like 5 mph. With your hands and heavy gloves, try to stop one of the tires. IF an open diff, you CAN, and the other will be running twice as fast. If it has a G80, you can start slow the one tire and the other speeds up, but then it will engage and you cant stop the tire.

Exactly. If you want to tear up the G80 you can. But some common sense usage and it becomes a very useful option to have on board. I think I would just look at the glove box label.