Also, I went to buy a sub soiler yesterday afternoon, and I decided not to after seeing it. I don't think my BX23 will lift high enough to get a standard cat 1 sub soiler out of the ground. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Oh well, I'll figure out something else, which will probably involve me building one. Maybe a middle buster would be better on a BX, if it's shorter, but TSC didn't have any in stock. Thanks for the info everyone.