Difference in auger teeth?

[stumblinhorse]

I need to replace the teeth on my post hole digger and the fish tail also. There seems to be a lot of choices. Anyone have opinions on what to get? What works well for pretty hard rocky soil? It takes pengo teeth. But I think if I put on a new tip/fish tail it can change.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

 

[RjCorazza]

I'm glad I looked into your post, as I now know my Land pride auger takes Pengo wear parts also.
My soil is somewhat clay mixed with rock, and the TriFlo dirt tip does fine, along with the standard flat teeth mounted at 40 degrees.
It looks like the rock options would get pricey fast, but I didn't price them.

 

[stumblinhorse]

The pengo carbides are 3x the price of the regular teeth. Wonder if they are worth it?

 

[RjCorazza]

I did 55 holes last year with non carbide teeth and ground the teeth square for the heck of it. I suspect the regular teeth are good for several hundred holes in my conditions.
I think if I were regularly drilling holes I would consider the carbide teeth, but the extra expense doesn't make sense for my use.

 

[true temper]

I go on eBay and buy scrap carbide lathe inserts and braze them on. Works better than anything you can buy.

 

[EddieWalker]

From what I've heard, Pengo is top of the line. I've never used Pengo, so I can't comment on them, but I have tried a few other cheaper brands and I'm very impressed with Country Line auger teeth and tip from Tractor Supply. I have two of their augers, and they both dig faster then I can handle. My soil is hard, compacted red clay with a layer of grey clay about 3 feet down, that is even harder then the red clay. In areas where the grey clay is closer to the surface, I was never able to get through it with any other brands, but the Country Line goes through it very aggressively. My issue is that it's so aggressive that I tend to bury the auger. It's a challenge to not dig too fast!!!

 

[Raul-02]

I need to replace the teeth on my post hole digger and the fish tail also. There seems to be a lot of choices. Anyone have opinions on what to get? What works well for pretty hard rocky soil? It takes pengo teeth. But I think if I put on a new tip/fish tail it can change.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

I want forged. If they are not forged I'l wreck 'em lickedy split.

 

[Fallon]

Thick carbide frost teeth are useless in hard clay. Changed them out for some thinner dirt teeth & they cut fine. Don't remember if I got the hard faced ones or not.

Pengo stuff is good, but you still need to get the right auger or teeth for purpose.

 

[Popgadget]

Pengo is the way to go, it’s pretty easy to change the teeth from standard to hard faced or carbide depending on the conditions. Just make sure you change worn teeth before the holder gets worn away.

 

[Vigo327]

This has made me realize I need a whole primer on auger teeth.

 

[M59]

I need to replace the teeth on my post hole digger and the fish tail also. There seems to be a lot of choices. Anyone have opinions on what to get? What works well for pretty hard rocky soil? It takes pengo teeth. But I think if I put on a new tip/fish tail it can change.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

A bit more detail on what you mean by pretty hard rocky soil would be helpful. Rocky soil can take lots of different forms. This is what I deal with in hills of NC. When I get into this stuff then ONLY carbide tipped tip and carbide bullets on the first flight and then hard face on the flight edge for next foot.

If your talking small bank run gravel rocks then forged spade teeth ( Pengo / Esco ) will dig well. Depending on how your existing teeth are mounted to your existing post hole auger will determine what your choice for teeth are UNLESS your willing to replace the root and the tooth with preferred item.

The choices for teeth are huge so have fun googling BUT check what is on your auger first.

Possible web site

AugerTeeth | Esco Style Bucket Teeth

Auger Teeth Online has a great selection of Auger Teeth AND Bucket Teeth. Available for online ordering shipped directly to you! You will also find Auger Points, Fishtails, Wear Parts and more to complete your auger.

www.augerteethonline.com

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Have fun.

 

[Popgadget]

Here’s a 6” and a 9” auger with pengo carbide teeth for shale or clay. They work reasonably well in shale, excellent in clay.

 

[nyone]

Here’s a 6” and a 9” auger with pengo carbide teeth for shale or clay. They work reasonably well in shale, excellent in clay. View attachment 762545
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I would hope so. Adding those heads onto an auger nearly doubled its price.

I find that it's mostly the wisdom tooth that wears in rock and clay. If you can weld you can always put some beads on those teeth.

If your trying to drill through bed rock I wouldnt bother. Just epoxy in something.

 

[stumblinhorse]

I have gone thru a couple sets of standard pengo teeth, 1 set standard and 1 set w/welded on beads in about 50 holes. My auger doesn’t have any down pressure, just me with the digging bar as a lever off the back. Holes on average take about 15minutes to dig. Ground is dry and hard this time of year and is not solid rock or bed rock just mixed with rock. Teeth just get shaved or filed off looking and become useless. I flip them over after about 15 holes and they work again for about 10 more holes.

 

[M59]

I have gone thru a couple sets of standard pengo teeth, 1 set standard and 1 set w/welded on beads in about 50 holes. My auger doesn’t have any down pressure, just me with the digging bar as a lever off the back. Holes on average take about 15minutes to dig. Ground is dry and hard this time of year and is not solid rock or bed rock just mixed with rock. Teeth just get shaved or filed off looking and become useless. I flip them over after about 15 holes and they work again for about 10 more holes.

stumblinhorse,

I don't understand why you are having very high tooth wear. Very sandy soil can be aggressive on dirt teeth if they are standard cast teeth instead of forged. Is it possible the teeth are made of chinesium?

I will take a picture of the rock and dirt augers I use ( both 12" ). Both have been used for hundreds of holes with virtually no tooth or flight edge wear. I will look up tooth replacement info and post here later today.

 

[stumblinhorse]

stumblinhorse,

I don't understand why you are having very high tooth wear. Very sandy soil can be aggressive on dirt teeth if they are standard cast teeth instead of forged. Is it possible the teeth are made of chinesium?

I will take a picture of the rock and dirt augers I use ( both 12" ). Both have been used for hundreds of holes with virtually no tooth or flight edge wear. I will look up tooth replacement info and post here later today.

I just looked at the set off the auger. They are forged pengo aggressor 40/50 made in the USA. I am sure they wear down since it takes so long to make a hole. Kind of a catch 22.

 

[Fallon]

A bit more detail on what you mean by pretty hard rocky soil would be helpful. Rocky soil can take lots of different forms. This is what I deal with in hills of NC. When I get into this stuff then ONLY carbide tipped tip and carbide bullets on the first flight and then hard face on the flight edge for next foot.
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If your talking small bank run gravel rocks then forged spade teeth ( Pengo / Esco ) will dig well. Depending on how your existing teeth are mounted to your existing post hole auger will determine what your choice for teeth are UNLESS your willing to replace the root and the tooth with preferred item.

The choices for teeth are huge so have fun googling BUT check what is on your auger first.

Possible web site

AugerTeeth | Esco Style Bucket Teeth

Auger Teeth Online has a great selection of Auger Teeth AND Bucket Teeth. Available for online ordering shipped directly to you! You will also find Auger Points, Fishtails, Wear Parts and more to complete your auger.

www.augerteethonline.com

Product Finder | Pengo Attachments

Have fun.

AugerTeeth | 35 Series Auger Teeth if the link works... first few teeth are what now have & work great. "Pengo 1336L Carbide Tipped Tooth" came with the used auger. Absolutely useless in Colorado clay due to being so obtuse on the cutting edge. I'm sure they last WAY longer & do gravel better. But they don't do clay.

"Dirt" 60 miles away is called the Rocky Mountains & mostly granite. Totally different than what I have. Conditions vary so what works for me may not work at all for you 60 miles away much 600.

 

[M59]

stumblinhorse,

Just looked at the augers. All made by Premier and all the spade teeth are marked Premier 00200. The tree planting auger hasn't seen much use so teeth can be read.
The auger bit is Premier CDR for rock auger and CDC for dirt / dirt gravel.

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