Differences between B3200 and B3030 - Buying comparison?

[bilrus61]

Re: Differences between B3200, B3030 & L3200 - Buying comparison?

I think the B series have a aluminum transmission in the rear and the L is cast iron. This is to save weight for mowing the yards with a belly mower. If your not going to mow the yard get the L. You can use a magnet to check what it is back there at the rear.

 

[magicheater]

Hey Jim,

I just got done wrestling with the same decision as you. I really started off looking at the B3300SU, but finally decided on the L3800. I really like the B3300, but I was worried about the lift capacity of the loader, especially with the Kubota quick attach, as it pushes the bucket or forks out a few more inches forward. The extra reach is nice with that, but I am not positive the amount of reduced lift capacity. I also did not like the 1/4 inching 3-pt. The L3800 is over kill for me as well with only 2.25 acres, but a ton of projects to do. The L3200/ 3800 also has the skid steer style quick attach available which is very nice. I had one in the past and loved it. I looked at a L3800 and B3300 side by side at the dealers lot a few days ago and as you said, the size is almost identical. The B3300 did not have a loader on it. I think if you compare the loaders, the loader on the L's just extends out further which gives you better reach and lift heights. Also, makes the whole set up longer, which may be a negative for you. The same dealer had a used B3300 with 17 hrs on it that came back and traded in on an L3800. Here is a link to a thread, if you have not seen it already, that has an L3800 w/FEL picking up an approx 1,800 lb. bale.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/221013-l3800-front-end-loader-lift.html

Good luck in your decision,
Russ

Here is the spec sheet for the L3200/L3800/L4600. Are you able to get the LA764 on the L3800? Lifting an 1850 LB. bale is pretty good on a Loader with an 1131 LB. rating!

 

[1savoy]

Here is the spec sheet for the L3200/L3800/L4600. Are you able to get the LA764 on the L3800? Lifting an 1850 LB. bale is pretty good on a Loader with an 1131 LB. rating!

Hi magicheater,

I know??? I have looked at the Kubota spec's for the 524 and wonder the same thing. The tractor in the thread was definitely the 524 if you zoom in. I have read a couple of posts where the bypass setting was turned up to allow more lift capacity. The other interesting thing is the Kubota literature from 2011 lists the lift capacity-full height @ pivot pins to be 1490 lbs. I can scan the page if you are interested in seeing it. I wonder what what has changed, if anything.

Thanks,
Russ

 

[magicheater]

Hi magicheater,

I know??? I have looked at the Kubota spec's for the 524 and wonder the same thing. The tractor in the thread was definitely the 524 if you zoom in. I have read a couple of posts where the bypass setting was turned up to allow more lift capacity. The other interesting thing is the Kubota literature from 2011 lists the lift capacity-full height @ pivot pins to be 1490 lbs. I can scan the page if you are interested in seeing it. I wonder what what has changed, if anything.

Thanks,
Russ

Yes, I would like to see that and I am sure others would too.

 

[1savoy]

Hi magicheater,

Just scanned it in. After looking at the spec's again, I would think it was probably a typo in the old Kubota literature and 1490 lbs is the spec at 1500 mm height @ pivot pin like the current literature. Sorry I did not catch this before. Here it is anyway.

Thanks,
Russ

 

[jim_wilson]

Here is the spec sheet for the L3200/L3800/L4600. Are you able to get the LA764 on the L3800? Lifting an 1850 LB. bale is pretty good on a Loader with an 1131 LB. rating!

I think if you look at the specs on the 524 loader on an L3800 - it's explainable.

At full height the lift spec is like 1131.

At half height the lift spec is 1430 or something like that.

My guess is that when the loader is at the bottom - the lift capability is right in the 1800 pound range.

My BX23 was the same way. I once loaded up the FEL bucket with weightlifting weights to get an idea of it's capacity. I could lift about 630 pounds or so - to half height - and that was it. Judging by some of the rocks I've moved with the BX - I would guess that the FEL capability of the BX was in the 800 pound range - at the bottom of it's travel.

 

[magicheater]

I think if you look at the specs on the 524 loader on an L3800 - it's explainable.

At full height the lift spec is like 1131.

At half height the lift spec is 1430 or something like that.

My guess is that when the loader is at the bottom - the lift capability is right in the 1800 pound range.

My BX23 was the same way. I once loaded up the FEL bucket with weightlifting weights to get an idea of it's capacity. I could lift about 630 pounds or so - to half height - and that was it. Judging by some of the rocks I've moved with the BX - I would guess that the FEL capability of the BX was in the 800 pound range - at the bottom of it's travel.

I guess that is a feasible explanation, depending on which numbers are correct.

 

[LD1]

I can see it lifting the bale, but also keep in mind that the weight of the bale is also just estimated.

But the loader has more force down low. The higher you lift something, the more pressure it takes. IE: the higher it goes, the lift capacity is diminished. I can go into why, but it really dont matter.

So when a MFG lists a spec TO FULL HEIGHT, you betcha it can lift a good deal more than that down low.

I have lifted and moved a 500 gallon propane tank with 15% propane before with my L3400. Nearest estimation was ~1450lbs. And this was with the loader about 6' in the air (had to so I could clear the tank and hook chains. The tank wasnt 6' in the air:confused2. and with only having a 8' lift height, I was already near the top where capacity diminishes pretty quick.