Dilemma: R4 or Ag tires

[lockhaven]

I will ring in for R4, get them filled and the traction is great. I used to run a JD B around 40's vintage the ag tires were worn to look like R4's with the filled tires it would go anywhere. and that was two wheel drive. my CK30 with R4's has gone everywhere I have pointed it.

 

[teg]

...Too Tippy. I have Ag on 2005 CK30

Mike do you have them setup for the widest stance? Got a photo of the wheel? and are they loaded?

 

[grnspot110]

I like my R4's on my JD 790 for my use, but sounds like Ag's would fit your needs better! ~~ grnspot110

 

[Storm56]

I have R-4's on my JD 4700 and have no compaints, even when plowing snow. But R-1's may be better in this application if you are not doing any yard work.

 

[Patches]

Stay out of the woods if you choose ags. I've holed my R-4's in the woods; those sharp staubs are impossible to see,but seem to find tires easily, and ags are much more tender than the 4s

 

[BJN644]

R-4's are better for loader work. Ag's will cut in like bicycle tires with a full bucket of heavy material. Get chains for the winter, no matter what tire you end up with.

 

[mrutkaus]

TEG I don't have anything in the tires except air, and I have not moved them out to the widest stance yet.

 

[gkh7890]

Gregfender,

When you say 70% hilly, can you describe any further? Do you mow all the hilly area? How steep are these hills (what angle if you have a angle gauge?)? Do you travel along/across the side of this area or do you go straight up and down.

I have a DK40, R4's, loaded. I'm on flat land. I've had no issues in the snow so far, & that's in and out of some mild ditches too. I did manage to bury my front end up to the axle this summer but that was b/c I ran right over top of the area I had used a subsoiler on and didn't see it b/c of the tall grass/weeds I was mowing at the time. Put it in 4x4 and backed out....that's my only experience w/ getting stuck.

The other reason I ask, is that I had the opportunity to mow w/ an Uncle's Kubota MX6800 cab w/ a 10ft brush hog in Kentucky. His land is anywhere from a 5 degree to around 45+ degree angle and he has R1's but they are doubled up on the fronts and rears for running around these hills (not just going up and down). He even has a 3rd set for it but wasn't using them. I got to mow a large section of it and that was test of nerves for sure!!!

Your center of gravity will be a very important issue where your hillside activities are concerned. Keep that in mind.

Good luck!

 

[gerard]

TEG I don't have anything in the tires except air, and I have not moved them out to the widest stance yet.

You do make a valid point to some extent in that given equal configurations, R1's will raise your center of gravity higher which will make it more prone to tipping. However everything is a tradeoff. Do want slightly better stability at the expense of traction? There are threads here ad nauseum on the pros and cons of the different tire styles and common sense says you should chose the tire that meets MOST of your needs. None will meet them ALL. For the circumstances described (need for traction in deep mud/logging roads), R1's with chains all the way around are the best choice.

Your reference to tippiness with non loaded tires set at a narrow setting kind of negates your contention a little. Tractors ship at the narrowest setting (called orchard usually) to save space. After I changed mine to a wider stance and picked up over 4 inches of width, stability took a quantum leap forward. Once I loaded the tires, I took another quantum leap forward and I would have to work at putting it on it's side now. Huge difference.
Your "tippiness" is more due to the narrow tire setting and lack of loaded tires than having R1's.
Also no matter what tires you have slopes, full buckets, holding them too high and or making fast turns with a bucket held high, will cause the most unpleasant sensation of your rear wheels leaving the ground and maybe result in a tractor on its side.

 

[LBrown59]

R1 Ags:laughing: will make it look like a real tractor.