dirt scoop for small tractor

[alexanderg23]

I've got a Yanmar 1300D 16hp, it doesn't have a FEL. I'm looking at getting a dirt scoop to move dirt and gravel, but I've been told most are too big. Do y'all know anyone that makes one that would fit my tractor?

Thanks in Advance!

 

[jeff9366]

Sixteen horsepower is not much to pull a Dirt Scoop, which is a ground contact implement. Nor do you have much lift capacity on your Three Point Hitch to deal with a load beyond the 250 pound scoop itself.

You will need to determine if your Three Point Hitch is Category O, Category O/1 or Category 1.

I presume small Dirt/Pond Scoops are Category 1, but I do not know that for sure. A Category 1 implement will not fit a Cotegory 0 Three Point Hitch and may or may not fit a Category O/1 Three Point Hitch.

LINK TO 24" POND SCOOP: King Kutter Dirt Scoop


Consider a Cross Drawbar with a mounted trailer ball, plus a trailer for moving dirt and gravel. You can special order a Polar Trailer from Home Depot.

Small Utility Trailers | Polar Trailer

 

[Terrydt100]

I have a 15 hp iskei that I use with 24 inch wide dirt scoop. My tractor has no problem with the scoop,full,of dirt other then front end coming off ground on an incline. Wouldn't think a 16 hp tractor would have any problem.

 

[Brad_Blazer]

These 24" models run just under 160lbs.
24" Dirt Scoop
NorTrac 3-Pt. Dirt Scoop | Category 1 Scoops| Northern Tool + Equipment
3-Point Dirt Scoop 24

I have a 30" Howse that works fine.

 

[alexanderg23]

Thanks for guys, is there any problems with the smaller tractor not being able to lift the scoop high enough to dump?

 

[jeff9366]

Have you determined what size Three Point Hitch you have??? If you do not have an unrestricted Category 1 Three Point Hitch a scoop is not going to fit your tractor.

What is the lift capacity of your Three Point Hitch, stated in your Owner's Manual?

You have to do your part of the research here.

 

[Xfaxman]

I have a 4' box blade that came with a combination Cat 0/Cat 1 hitch, so it might be possible to find a dirt scoop made that way.

You could also modify a 24" dirt scoop to fit Category 0.

 

[94BULLITT]

To use a dirt scoop (called pond scoop where I live) you will need a ballast on the front of your tractor. The nicer scoops can be hooked onto from either end. I occasionally use a 30'' scoop on a BX. Mine has 2 set of holes for the lift are pins so on a smaller tractor you can get more lift. I think you would be fine with a 24'' or a 30'' but you will be a ballast.

 

[Brad_Blazer]

That Yanmar should have Cat 1 3-point. It needs to lift enough to clear the distance from the pivot point to the cutting edge minus the distance from the pivot to the scoop bottom. On my 30" Howse that would be about 20-6 = 14". The pivot pin is also about 16" back from the hitch pins so if the scoop angles up a little as you lift you will gain a little there. Add at least a few inches for working room.


A dirt scoop is a fun implement to use, Clever design, self dumping and self re-setting.

 

[yeagisyeag]

It is a bit challenging to use a dirt scoop with a compact, but with a little modification it's certainly usable.

I bought an old dirt scoop for $100 a few years back. After realizing that my B7100 could lift it only a few inches at full lift, I cut off the mounts for the lift arms and lowered them on the frame of the scoop. I also changed the link pins from outward facing to inward facing, so that my lift arms could fit better. I'll attach an image (pre mods) to help illustrate.

I will say that when digging with my 16 hp tractor, in undisturbed clay soil, I can barely fill the bottom of the 24" scoop 3 to 4 inches deep before I either lose traction or stall the tractor. Loose soil or gravel can fill the scoop no problem, but I normally need a couple of weights on the front of my B7100 to keep the front tires on the ground.

When dumping, the lip of the scoop still hits the ground, so I pull forward after it hits to turn the scoop all the way over, then back up and lower the arms to relatch the scoop. While not ideal, it certainly works fine and you kind of fall into a rhythm after using it for a while.