Disc.... Hydraulic or not hydraulic

[Bfitzgerald3]

I'm in the market for a disc. Have a Kubota mx5100. Was assuming I would need to stick with a 3pt version, but in speaking with a friend with the same tractor, he advised that the 3pt discs don't dig in nearly enough and I should really try to get a hydraulic version.

I'm a weekend warrior, will only need to disc a few acres here, a few there. My friend is using his for his livelihood, so I wonder if his perspective is biased towards heavy use and efficiency.

I wonder... Do folks here agree, and what makes (whether 3pt or hyd) would you recommend? Obviously, I need a smaller model. I'll be using it in very sandy soil, no sod busting required.

Thanks!

 

[KYDan]

Do you have rear remotes? If not, the lift type would be a significantly less expensive option. If you have one then a used set of hydraulic lift discs might be the better option. I have the heavy duty 3 pt. lift type that weigh 810 lbs. and they have served me well.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

A 3 point tandem disc typically won't plow as well as a pull-type tandem disc (what you are calling hydraulic). And a pull-type tandem disc typically won't plow as well as a pull-type offset disc.

The reasons are (1) weight, and (2) geometry. Pull type tandem discs are typically heavier than 3 point mounted discs, and pull type offset discs are usually heavier than pull type tandem discs.

But, if I just had a few acres here and there to disc, I wouldn't worry about it. I'd buy a heavy 3 point disc and go to work. You might have to make 2 or 3 passes to do what a pull-type would do in one pass, but one a few acres, that's no big deal.

 

[Bfitzgerald3]

I do have a rear remote, so a pull-type is possible. Hydraulic...pull-type... Yeah, I'm a nube!

I was thinking what You said, P.P. ...hit it a few times and call it good. My friend left an impression that the 3pt would just annoy the heck outta me.

 

[C4Ranch]

It really depends on your soil and land configuration of what you want to disc.

I just ordered the ETA 24-20 @1,250#. For me, I wanted the menuverability of 3pt and this weight will work well in my soil. I have some odd corners that would be more challenging with a pull type.

 

[jeff9366]

Probably 9/10 Disc Harrows for Category 1 and Category 2 tractors sold today are 3-Pt. Tandem Disc Harrows.

Here is my thread on Tandem Disc Harrow selection: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/308251-disc-harrow-selection-18-45-a.html?highlight=


An MX5100 / 2-WD can pull a Disc Harrow with 18" diameter pans.

An MX5100 / 4-WD can pull a Disc Harrow with 20" diameter pans over sandy soil. (Maybe (?) 22" diameter pans with loaded R1 tires.)

There are a large number of implement manufactures out there and Disc Harrows are a competitive category. Tandem Disc Harrows are priced according to weight, number of pans and convenience of gang angle adjustment.

I own a basic Howse 16/18" and a heavier, lever adjust Monroe Tufline 18/20". Both gud.

Weight is your friend.

Monroe Tufline Review:http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/332493-tandem-lift-disc-harow-monroe.html?highlight=

 

[jeff9366]

A 3 point tandem disc typically won't plow as well as a pull-type tandem disc (what you are calling hydraulic). And a pull-type tandem disc typically won't plow as well as a pull-type offset disc.

If you want to PLOW with your Disc, Monroe Tufline manufactures 3-PT. LIFT OFFSET DISCS in two series.

TLO Series: 710 pounds - 1,298 pounds.

LO40 Series: 1,500 pounds - 2,362 pounds.

I am clueless as to which TLO Series Offset Disc your MX5100 could draw. Draft force is high pulling any Offset Disc.

 

[beesnstuff]

get the heaviest per linear foot just to cover your tire tracks. So 8' or 7.5' is what you need. pull-type offset. Don't bother with 3 pt., waste of time, hard on the hitch.

Normally, heavy discs need 10-15 HP per linear foot.

 

[joeu235]

3-pt disks have the problem that their depth is affected by tractor wheels going through humps and depressions. if the ground is rough, one minute the disk is skimming across the ground the next the tractor is stalling. Pull types are not affected by the tractor, only the height of the gauge wheels.

 

[C4Ranch]

3-pt disks have the problem that their depth is affected by tractor wheels going through humps and depressions. if the ground is rough, one minute the disk is skimming across the ground the next the tractor is stalling. Pull types are not affected by the tractor, only the height of the gauge wheels.

What kind of 3pt disc were you using?