Disc size vs. HP

[Tibbits]

I plan to buy a leinbach 20 gang 18 inch disc (B245 - 20 -18) for use with a Kubota L3430. I have 34 HP, 4WD with loaded R4s. I'll be plowing and discing about 7 acres of unused (mowed) land to turn into pasture. Do I have enough tractor? and is $909 a good price for the disc (new)?

 

[art]

I'd say it should be no problem but we don't know what type of soil you have and if it's clay or a hard soil with stones expect to be there a while if you don't plow or roto till first!

 

[Tibbits]

It's mostly clay, plan to catch it with the right amount of water. hopefully my old 2 bottom plow will hold up. and it may take me into next year to finish. but the weeds in this field are decades old and very established. only good news is it was farmed long ago so most big rocks should be gone....I've seen stacks of them in the wood line.

 

[leonz]

Hello Tibbits,

Its not the size that matters, (insert joke here):laughing:

its the disc type you need to worrry about.


You will be better off buying or borrowing/renting a

narrow three point hitch or wheeled disc with

the ripping discs rather than the smooth

discs as you will be tearing up a lot of old sod

that will take forever to decompose otherwise.:thumbsup:

 

[Egon]

If you plough first you will be a happy man.:thumbsup:

If you want to just use the disk; after placing enough weight on it to do some good, you may be disappointed .

 

[the6shooter]

It would seem to me if your planning on disking the pasture,
to get rid of the weeds.
You would want to plow and turn it over before disking. Maybe you could refer to everything attatchments and their Utube vidio's on how to run the plow. they really do have some good how to use vid's
Myself I don't have anything to plow, but like the how to vid's

I do, rotortill alot of customers property, and know I wouldn't just sink my tiller in the dirt, without ripping the ground first.
good luck david

 

[flusher]

I plan to buy a leinbach 20 gang 18 inch disc (B245 - 20 -18) for use with a Kubota L3430. I have 34 HP, 4WD with loaded R4s. I'll be plowing and discing about 7 acres of unused (mowed) land to turn into pasture. Do I have enough tractor? and is $909 a good price for the disc (new)?

What kind of topsoil? How deep?

I plant oat hay on 6 of my 10-acres (flat valley land). The top soil is thin, gravely loam 4-6 inches deep with a lot of clay underneath. Plowing in this case is not advised since I would just be inverting the layers and burying what decent topsoil I have. So I use an old 6.5 ft wide Towner off-set drag disc (a gift from a neighbor plus about $75 in new parts) as my primary tillage implement. I hook a homebuilt drag onto the rear of the disc to bust up the clods. My tractor is a 2008 Mahindra 5525 (54 hp engine, 45 hp pto, 2WD, gear tranny, power steering) and has no problem pulling that small disc. Your tractor should be able to handle that 6-ft Leinbach disc with its 4WD and loaded tires.



I plant with an old Minneapolis Moline P3-6 grain drill (10 ft wide, 20 hoes) that I bought from a neighbor- $275 for a pair of these drills and about $200 in parts.



Planted Kanota oats--turned out OK in that thin soil

 

[art]

It's mostly clay, plan to catch it with the right amount of water. hopefully my old 2 bottom plow will hold up. and it may take me into next year to finish. but the weeds in this field are decades old and very established. only good news is it was farmed long ago so most big rocks should be gone....I've seen stacks of them in the wood line.

Most pastures in our area are a pasture so they didn't have to deal with the stones!

 

[belah]

I agree with the6shooter, you need to turn the soil over with a plow and let the weed roots die before discing. Then the weeds will be buried and will make good compost for your pasture. Here in La. I always pull a 3-4 bottom turning plow over "new ground" before discing. After discing, I pull an old cattle guard (cattle gap) upside down, over the ground to smooth out the clumps. The cattle guard is very heavy as it is made out of 2 7/8 in oilfield pipe but it does and excellent jod. I even pull it over my established pastures to knock down ant hills and level the ground..

 

[Tibbits]

well, I bought a woods 20 gang disc and it's working ok even with the ground being too dry. I had the dozer guy clear a lot of trees, and I've got more to do than I have time! and the heat slows me down. discing, box blading, borrowed root raking , hauling debris to the rot pile... big jobs. also have fill dirt and gravel coming. and fencing. anybody looking for some quality seat time?!