Dishwasher

[Bird]

1972-77, our first "new" house and came with a Gaffers & Sattler dishwasher. During that 5 years I replaced the motor twice. And I also replaced one for a neighbor and one for my sister.

1977-89, another new house with a new Gaffers & Sattler; must have improved them some; never had to work on that one in 12 years.

1989-1995, full time RVers; no dishwasher, fortunately.

1995-97, bought an old mobile home with a dirty, dead, full of water dishwasher. Had Sears install a new Kenmore.

1997-2000, bought a new custom built double wide that came with a GE dishwasher. It started leaking in less than 3 years and I would have had to buy the pump and motor as a single expensive unit.

2000-2002, before I could replace that GE, a daughter showed up with a new Maytag, which I installed. No trouble with it in the 2 years before we sold the place.

2005-present, bought this house with a KitchenAid dishwasher, but no manual, so I called and ordered a manual for it. They said the serial number means it is a 1999 model. Still working with no problems.

NOW . . . if it were up to me, I wouldn't have one of those things in the house. I can wash and dry dishes, utensils, pots & pans quicker and get them cleaner by hand. I NEVER use the thing.

HOWEVER . . . if the darned thing dies, I'll have to buy a new one just to keep the wife happy.:laughing:

 

[wngsprd]

I'm with you Bird, I wash a good bit by hand, but we can fill a dishwasher pretty quickly, too, so nice having one for the big jobs.

Our 10+ year old one started leaking and I decided to replace it back in October...figured it was an inexpensive Kenmore, and more stuff would start to fail since was old...Once I took it out and started looking at the internals, decided I made the right decision.

We chose a Bosch...got it on sale but was still about double what we paid for the Kenmore 10+ year ago. So far, very pleased...as others have said, extremely quiet...can stand next to it and not know it is on except the red light it projects onto the floor. We have not had any problems with cleanliness of dishes, or excess water left of them. Has a 3rd shelf, and stainless interior.

Good luck with your choice!

 

[kenmac]

Gaffers & Sattlers.. Never knew they made dishwashers.. I have (back in the day) replaced some Gaffers & Sattlers heating & cooling equipment

wow ! in 72-77 ya'll had a dishwasher ?? Ya'll lived on the rich side of the tracks.. In those yrs.. I had no idea there was such a thing

 

[oldpilgrim]

I had a dw back in 72, and a garbage disposal too. I took home $100/week, and was paying a mortgage and was adding 2 rooms on my house as my 2nd son was just born and we needed room.

It's surprising how far a buck would go back then.

 

[kenmac]

they probably had only 1 grade of dw back then too

 

[oldpilgrim]

Lots of different brands but they were all about the same except for chrome and paint. But they worked.

 

[kenmac]

Lots of different brands but they were all about the same except for chrome and paint. But they worked.

Back then.. there were probably only 4-5 (if that) brands and maybe 2 different models..Today I couldn't even guess all the brands or how many models each brand makes

 

[kcflhrc]

I would replace it. Stay away from Samsung. They make great phones and TV's but their appliances aren't very reliable. We bought all new Samsung kitchen appliances when we moved 2 years ago. The Samsung dishwasher has been broke several times in 2 years. A couple of weeks ago it started acting up again. I ripped it out of the hole and called the scrapper to come get it. This was a $1k dishwasher. After lots of looking and reading reviews we bought a new Bosch on sale for $800. It's an all stainless unit inside and out. So far so good.

 

[TomSeller]

I have always stayed away from buying appliances at Home Depot because I was told probably 10 years or so ago that they are not the same models as appliance stores have. The person who told me this had one of their 2nd floor appliances fail and flooded their house while on vacation, ending up in a lawsuit. They said their eyes were really opened as far as what corners HD wanted the manufacturers to cut to save a few bucks.

I don't know if this was true only back then, is still true or never was true. Anyone know?

And if it is true, who else gets "lesser" models made? Sears?

 

[houstonscott]

They can have our dishwasher when they pry it from my wife's cold dead hands!unch:

No one is going to take it from you, but new ones will not use more than 1.7 gallons of water and will not clean dishes. HS

 

[houstonscott]

I would replace it. Stay away from Samsung. They make great phones and TV's but their appliances aren't very reliable. We bought all new Samsung kitchen appliances when we moved 2 years ago. The Samsung dishwasher has been broke several times in 2 years. A couple of weeks ago it started acting up again. I ripped it out of the hole and called the scrapper to come get it. This was a $1k dishwasher. After lots of looking and reading reviews we bought a new Bosch on sale for $800. It's an all stainless unit inside and out. So far so good.

I think you'll find no matter what brand you pick they are all made in South Korea. HS

 

[Deere Dude]

My wife uses our dishwasher twice a year and that is when holidays roll around, otherwise after every meal she will wash and let dry in a basket in the sink. When she does use the dishwasher the dishes are almost clean when she puts them in.

When my wife is gone for a week or two she tells me to just load the dishwasher but I just wait until I start running out of room, then I just wash them up in about 10 minutes. KI would be better served by having a cabinet in it's place.

 

[TomSeller]

NOW . . . if it were up to me, I wouldn't have one of those things in the house. I can wash and dry dishes, utensils, pots & pans quicker and get them cleaner by hand. I NEVER use the thing.

HOWEVER . . . if the darned thing dies, I'll have to buy a new one just to keep the wife happy.:laughing:

Same here. I can get them a lot cleaner by hand but I broke down and now have a dishwasher for the first time at the insistence of the wife. Now I wash by hand and put them in the dishwasher where they get washed again . She has not caught on yet that I put it on the "glasses" cycle which is significantly shorter.

I don't care for anyone else doing dishes, otherwise my cast iron and wood handled knives, etc. will end up in the dishwasher. Some things are not meant for a dishwasher.

I agree with HS in that 1.7 gallons is too little to get dishes clean.

 

[kcflhrc]

I think you'll find no matter what brand you pick they are all made in South Korea. HS

Simply not true. Do a little research.

 

[prichard]

Do not get one with soft touch push buttons on the front. We have one and I swear if you walk near is the darn thing turns on. Wish we had gotten the one with the buttons on top of the door.

 

[newbury]

Did you know the government has controlled through regulation how much water a dishwasher can use. As memory serves me current reg. is 2.5 gallons. New regs getting ready to role out reduce that to 1.7 gallons. Industry says they can't make them clean dishes with that little water. I would suggest anyone that is even thinking they might buy a new dishwasher get it now! HS

Where do you get these numbers?

from https://www.federalregister.gov/art...on-standards-for-residential-dishwashers#h-16

.21.Show citation box

Product class	Compliance date: May 30, 2019	Maximum annual energy use *	Maximum per-cycle water consumption
1. Standard (≥8 place settings plus 6 serving pieces)	234 kWh/year	3.1 gal/cycle.
2. Compact (<8 place settings plus 6 serving pieces)	203 kWh/year	3.1 gal/cycle.

2. Summary of Benefits and Costs (Annualized) of the Standards

That lists 3.1 gallons. By May 30 2019

 

[sal64]

get a new one 11 yrs its running on borrowed time.

 

[jerrybob]

No one is going to take it from you, but new ones will not use more than 1.7 gallons of water and will not clean dishes. HS

Thanks....my wife will be pleased.

 

[houstonscott]

Simply not true. Do a little research.

I did the research , it's why I posted what I did...

Appliance411 The Purchase: Who Makes What?

HS

 

[jerrybob]

Wonder if dishwashers in Flint, Michigan clean better.......with all that lead in the water you'd think they would????