DIY troughs

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This sounds like it may turn into a serious operation Pat.:D

I have read where electronic ear tags on the cattle can activate a feeder to dispense the proper amount of food for each specific animal. :D

On your present plastic troughs would a horizontal 2x4 on the bottom at each end help from tipping if that becomes a problem.
 
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Egon said:
On your present plastic troughs would a horizontal 2x4 on the bottom at each end help from tipping if that becomes a problem.

Yes it would, Egon, and you wouldn't need one at both ends to tip proof it but I won't be doing that. Part of the design philosophy was to eliminate wood-earth contact. I don't expect to have to "maintain" these troughs. They don't get turned over very often and righting them is trivial.

You'd lose some efficiency but gain tip over resistance by attaching some together in an "L" shape or zig zag. I could use simple DIY metal hinges to couple them together with enough freedom to be ablel to get then out of a too perfect straight line. This would increase tip resistance but surely increase build cost, time and effort. (Did I mention I'm getting lazy?) A horizontal 2x4 (not on the ground) connecting two feeders together, still parallel but not co-linear widens the effective base and provides tip resistance while maintaining full efficiency of access. This would be better than any "L" or zig zag.

Egon, As to the size of the cattle operation... we are land limited. Our land is not all that productive and will not support dense stocking ratios. There is considerable competition for leasing grazing land so that tends to marginalize you if you lease for too much $. The good news is that it isn't all that much harder to care for 100-200 head than it is for 10 if you set up your operation efficiently.

For example: If you distribute feed from a hopper on a truck and don't exceed the hopper capacity in one feeding then there is hardly any difference in management input (labor) to feed a multitude. Vet services amortize better across larger herds. Feed prices are better if you can take a semi at a time (22-24 tons of corn gluten/soy hulls as pelletized feed.) I have a friend/neighbor who can take a full load and he runs about 50 head of momma cows. He feeds with buckets into metal troughs I helped build.

He has plans for a feed dispenser he can put on his 4 wheeler.

The good news is that I have friends who know more about cattle than I will ever know and one of them is running part of his in common with mine and we share the labor such as taking turns feeding and such.

EID is a mixed blessing and some additional cost but it will be a very good thing when fully implemented. I have seen readers working and they seem to do OK.

Pat

Pat
 
   / DIY troughs #13  
Uh - oh; Pat you have been bitten by the "Doing" bug. :D :D Is there a full scale feeder operation in the works?:D :D
 
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Egon, I have in mind an overhead pelletized feed storage bin. A friend bought some tanks out of the oil field and made feed storage out of one. It is 10 ft diameter and 16 ft high if I recall correctly and will hold 20-24 tons of pelletized feed (density varies with ratio of corn gluten to soy hulls.)

I want something mounted up off the ground high enough so that a pickup mounted feed distribution system can be driven under a chute to be filled. My buddy has 3 chutes around the periphery of his ground mounted tank high enough to fill a 5-6 gal plastic bucket. Not good enough for lazy me.

We won't be feeding much more supplemental feed as the grass is greening up and soon will be sufficient without supplemental. So I will have several months to think about it!

Pat
 
   / DIY troughs #15  
So many different ways to store and handle feed in bulk it can get quite interesting to choose and adapt one to fit your needs. :D

With the advent of all the new electronic devices chances are the "Lazy Mans" potential has not yet been reached.:D

I'm still in the grain chopper, 5 gallon pail and hay fork era!:D
 
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Egon, I'm afraid that doing automation based on EID is probably out of reach economically for me. I will just comply with requirements to do the EID implant (when mandatory) and may not ever have a scanner.

For me, just being able to drain bulk feed from an overhead bin into a carrier in a pickup bed with ability to dispense to the trough without getting in and out of the truck or in and out of the tractor cab a lot would be good enough.

Pat
 

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