I would agree with that. But, they could raise their prices a decent amount around me and still beat the other brands quite easily. I just can't believe how unwilling to deal the New Holland and Deere dealers by me are. We also have a large Kubota/Deere combo dealership. Many sales guys who don't understand or know the products well, at least that was my impression. Its a big shop, but they don't seem to want to deal either. I almost fell to the floor when I was doing price comparisons. TC28 would have been almost $5000 more than my ck30. I mean the quotes these people were giving, I felt like I must have been walking into the stores with money hanging out of clothes, while pulling up in my Rolls Royce.