DK10se owners, power question

[HondaKen]

Hey everyone,

I've been reading this forum for years, just recently signed up. Great community and very helpful. Thanks for that.

I'm about to make a purchase on a DK10se tractor...I drove the 4210 and it was very comfortable. I know this is a non turbo version, and it seems decent on power, but was wondering if anyone owns or has driven the larger hp versions. The dealer will give me a great deal on a 4710. When does it stop, 5310? etc...

Any regrets getting the 4210? Also would love to hear from anyone who owns 4710se and up. I'm locked in on this series. Will be perfect for my property.

Appreciate the feedback

 

[Amvcane]

welcome to the forum Ken.
what is your location? are you located at a high altitude where you will benefit from a turbo charged engine?

 

[HondaKen]

Wisconsin, so not high altitude.

 

[ritcheyvs]

Do you need the horsepower? Turbos work great with Diesels: more power with little extra weight and no real fuel penalty. But turbos do add cost and complexity. For "pulling" weight is more important than horsepower. But you might need horsepower if you run a heavy PTO load. Then again, I haven't heard many say they wish they bought a smaller tractor.

 

[JET1]

I'm considering similar options: CK4010se vs DK4210se vs DK4710se.

I'm leaning toward the DK10se over the CK10se, as the difference in size seems well worth the price.
I'm leaning toward the DK4710se over the DK4210se to get a PTO HP closer to 35 for snowblower use.

My main concern is that I have a fairly steep 600' driveway that I plan to snowblow and scrape/grade. Is there any reason to prefer the CK4010se over the DK4210se to have a higher HP to weight ratio? Thanks.

 

[HondaKen]

Ive driven them both a lot trying to make a decision. In my opinion the CK10se is just a little smaller machine, more nimber in woods and brush etc. I'v considered it , as I have a lot of wooded land. Im going to the dealer tomorrow and I
ve made my decision. DK4710se hc. I'm pretty excited. I havent commited to any price so far, but after several weeks we are at 28,300, block heater and some swag, 3 hats. I'd really like to get my tires filled on that price. We will see. I think its fair, though.

Thanks guys!

 

[MichiganIron]

Snowblower and a driveway with a decent grade, get the 4710...you won't be sorry.

 

[Pickleman76]

I have put 100 hrs on my DK4710SE mostly doing snow removal I have a 6’ hla snow pusher with backdrag and 6’ normand blower and can say that this was the best winter I’ve had in a long time I would lose traction before running out of power. Only thing I need is to load the tires for additional weight

 

[HondaKen]

I recently had my DK4710SE HC delivered. All finished, not including tax, I got filled tires, 72" LandPride box blade, block heater, kioti cutting edge for the bucket, and the 3 hats for 29,100. Pretty pleased I went with this model! I got the tractor 5 days ago, but the box blade came yesterday. Ground is still frozen rock hard but...here some pics!

 

[Phantese]

I have put 100 hrs on my DK4710SE mostly doing snow removal I have a 6’ hla snow pusher with backdrag and 6’ normand blower and can say that this was the best winter I’ve had in a long time I would lose traction before running out of power. Only thing I need is to load the tires for additional weight

Hey I'm asking dk10se how do you find your 3 point hitch when raising it, is it jumpy or bouncy? I have a DK4210 SE cab and it shakes the crap out of me when I raise it

 

[hodag hunter]

I recently had my DK4710SE HC delivered. All finished, not including tax, I got filled tires, 72" LandPride box blade, block heater, kioti cutting edge for the bucket, and the 3 hats for 29,100. Pretty pleased I went with this model! I got the tractor 5 days ago, but the box blade came yesterday. Ground is still frozen rock hard but...here some pics!

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I too am from WI and deciding between a Kioti DK4210se or DK4710se, may I ask where you purchased your tractor?

 

[HondaKen]

I got mine from swiderski in waupaca, Chris was the salesman and was excellent. I recommend more power the better

 

[hodag hunter]

Thanks for the information. The pricing I am receiving is from Swiderski in Wausau and our first "go around". Its higher than what you paid.

 

[Kiotikirk]

I bought the DK4710sehst last November. I got the cabbed version and have the loader and a 74 inch blizzard rear mount blower. Love the tractor except for 1 thing. Cannot keep the windows fog free. cab seems to be really tight and hard to get fresh air in. bought a 12 volt fan and that seems to help with moving the air around the cab or open the back window. seems to have lots of power for what I am doing. another issue is the hydraulics when operating the bucket. It struggles to do 2 functions at the same time.

 

[grsthegreat]

Just run the ac compressor at same time as running heat. That’s what I do with mine. No more issues with misting windows

 

[redman135]

Kiotikirk, the issue you describe can be likely be tracked to a budget valve control for the loader.
I ran into a similar issue with a hydraulic post rammer.

 

[Phantese]

I bought the DK4710sehst last November. I got the cabbed version and have the loader and a 74 inch blizzard rear mount blower. Love the tractor except for 1 thing. Cannot keep the windows fog free. cab seems to be really tight and hard to get fresh air in. bought a 12 volt fan and that seems to help with moving the air around the cab or open the back window. seems to have lots of power for what I am doing. another issue is the hydraulics when operating the bucket. It struggles to do 2 functions at the same time.

Hi,
I've had my DK4210SE HST back to the dealer a number of times for fogging issues, no real solution, Kioti suggested a sock full of kitty litter in the roof of the cab as the final solution... it helps moderately to run the AC full time for me but when I change temps from hot to cold (with the AC running full time) I still get fogging sometimes.
My experience with these tractors hydraulics is they cannot do 2 functions at once very well, my Kubota has a more finely tuned loader valve and it was perfect at two functions at once. Kioti uses a "cheaper valve - IMHO" that sends more oil to the curl/dump function than the raise and lower, therefore if you are raising or lowering the loader and try to curl/dump at the same time it almost stops raising and lowering to do the curl/dump as the priority. I also took mine back to the dealer for this, (to bad so sad) so I just live with it.
I bought a 3rd function valve and was going to install it this winter, but I'm thinking it might be a waste of money since doing more than 1 function simultaneously with the loader is limited, so I took it back and had a second set of rear remotes installed to run my grapple.

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