No matter how dumb you thought it was he was merely pointing out some things that needed to be pointed out for some here.
Do ROPS' work when UP? Do they work when folded?
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No matter how dumb you thought it was he was merely pointing out some things that needed to be pointed out for some here.
aczlan
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One other thing to think of (for tractors without a FEL installed), pop the hood and see there the top of the engine is and make sure that you are using that for your "line to the folded ROPS" as your hood and the light stuff right under it could be crushed in a rollover reducing the "safe space" for you.
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Willl
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If the insurance companys have to pay out, I'll put money down we'll see that happen.
Probably not since not having a folding ROPS only encourages the removal of them all together.
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Wow, this thread's gotten outta hand, men.
1) I (the OP) really wanted to know about your first-hand experiences when rolling over, namely how your ROPS fared & whether you were hurt.
2) And, maybe I shoulda worded the 2nd part this way: If your ROPS was folded down & you rolled, would the two ROPS side pieces still sticking up bend over, or are they strong enough to not bend, thus maybe helping prevent your tractor from rolling all the way upside-down.
Had no idea this discussion would go on to this extent! Interesting reading, though.
1) I (the OP) really wanted to know about your first-hand experiences when rolling over, namely how your ROPS fared & whether you were hurt.
2) And, maybe I shoulda worded the 2nd part this way: If your ROPS was folded down & you rolled, would the two ROPS side pieces still sticking up bend over, or are they strong enough to not bend, thus maybe helping prevent your tractor from rolling all the way upside-down.
Had no idea this discussion would go on to this extent! Interesting reading, though.
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I can give you a definite maybe on the second. On hard, flat ground, at low rollover speeds, they would help.
On soft (ie: soft enough to put a shovel into without jumping on it) ground the end is likely to dig in.
On sloped ground, it will probably not slow you down much from a full rollover.
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To specifically address your updated questions, albeit not from personal experience, I would expect some deformation of the folded ROPS and/or some penetration of the ROPS into the ground; depth depending upon ground conditions.
Wheter they would prevent a total inversion of the tractor would also depend on an number of factors; tipping force, incline of ground, direction of tip, speed of tipping, etc....
Back to the ongoing battle concerning the survivability of such an event with the ROPS folded, I would submit that the head space would be considerably less than one might anticipate not only due to the potential penetration of the ROPS and the probable compression of the surfaces of the tractor holding the operator off the ground, but also because of the slack in the seatbelt and compressionability of the operator's body when affected by gravity and centrifical force as the tractor moves toward the inverted position. Measuring the distance from the seat to to the top of the folder ROPS is inadequate unless you can also factor in how far your body will be hanging out of the seat as you roll and what distance the ground will be from the seat during the event. Since this is such a complicated and variable computation, I would strongly suggest avoiding the whole scenario. Keep the ROPS up and try not to tip your tractor. Being safe and avoid proving this argument and I think you will be much happier.
Wheter they would prevent a total inversion of the tractor would also depend on an number of factors; tipping force, incline of ground, direction of tip, speed of tipping, etc....
Back to the ongoing battle concerning the survivability of such an event with the ROPS folded, I would submit that the head space would be considerably less than one might anticipate not only due to the potential penetration of the ROPS and the probable compression of the surfaces of the tractor holding the operator off the ground, but also because of the slack in the seatbelt and compressionability of the operator's body when affected by gravity and centrifical force as the tractor moves toward the inverted position. Measuring the distance from the seat to to the top of the folder ROPS is inadequate unless you can also factor in how far your body will be hanging out of the seat as you roll and what distance the ground will be from the seat during the event. Since this is such a complicated and variable computation, I would strongly suggest avoiding the whole scenario. Keep the ROPS up and try not to tip your tractor. Being safe and avoid proving this argument and I think you will be much happier.
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I have sun screen on mine and since it took $500 and two days in the sun to modify the pole barn door to fit the tractor in the barn, mine will stay up!
I am counting on mine working well enough to at least keep the thing from going clear over and and following me down the slope that and it giving me something to tie on to to flip it back over afterward.
I don't plan on riding it out though if its at all possible to jump off first,and if its down and I stay on I would be smashed no doubt about that.
With that said they aren't really made for 30 mph crashes only a slow roll but I could be wrong.
I don't plan on riding it out though if its at all possible to jump off first,and if its down and I stay on I would be smashed no doubt about that.
With that said they aren't really made for 30 mph crashes only a slow roll but I could be wrong.
I was doing some reading on this subject and apparently as a result of the numbers of people not raising them for use, The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, NIOSH, has been working on a passive, automatically deploying ROPS system. They call it an AutoROPS.
I also found this pdf of a prototype automatic deploying ROPS from The University of Tennessee. http://www.asabe.org/awards/competitions/Powered Foldable ROPS - U of TN-.pdf
Their calculations show this will add $734 to the cost of tractor.
If mandated, potentially we could all have to pay for this, on a future tractor, because of those who would not take the few seconds to raise it manually. :drink:
I also found this pdf of a prototype automatic deploying ROPS from The University of Tennessee. http://www.asabe.org/awards/competitions/Powered Foldable ROPS - U of TN-.pdf
Their calculations show this will add $734 to the cost of tractor.
If mandated, potentially we could all have to pay for this, on a future tractor, because of those who would not take the few seconds to raise it manually. :drink:
