Do Women Understand Teamwork?

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Actually, I was just about to post a thread,

"DO MEN UNDERSTAND TEAMWORK?"

Because, last night, we had a big turkey dinner pre-Christmas family event, and I was amazed at how useless the men were in the kitchen. Without going into details, it was clear that it would have been "Keystone Cops" if it were not for the fact that the men were eventually banned from the cooking operation altogether. For example, I would give a couple of them something simple to do (like chopping up some nuts for the stuffing, and some fresh sage), and they spent half an hour trying to decide (a) which cupboard the "Slap Chop" was in, and (b) trying to figure out how it worked. And then every time I turned around they were over "sampling" a little of the turkey that was "resting" comfortably just prior to carving. The women, on the other hand, were working like a well-oiled machine, and everything was cooked right on time. (Do you ever start the potatoes too early, and then have to turn them off because the roast isn't quite done yet, only to find later that the potatoes are now all mushy and watery tasting?

I would think it's genetic, but I know better. If your wife had been driving ATV since she was 8 years old like my daughter, she would have said "You rake the leaves while I am gone, and I will go dump them - and make sure you get those two under the rock."

:laughing:

 

[Financegal]

Hey, probably lone woman checking in here. I not only "get" what you are saying, I agree 100%. My background might help. My mother died very young and all 4 kids traded off doing chores - I had to cut the grass just as often as I cooked or cleaned and the same for my brothers, nothing was ever "girl" or "boy" jobs. For a career, I was one of a very few female civilians in all military offices in Washington DC for 30 years (mostly Marines) way before political correctness. Also where I met BF (retired Navy) and he and I have been together for over 30 years. Most of our friends were always from the workplace.

It was not until I (and other female friends from work) retired and more integrated into our community were we aware as to how truly different we view life than most women. BF recently said he never noticed how apparent it was until he was around other couples we know who are not from our job. Things that have most women up in arms and spinning, seem nothing to me. BF said the way I deal/view things is a direct result of being "raised right along with the "wolves" for decades. Using your example, I too would be nuts if the characters were all reversed.

Just so ya know - even when you are two very likeminded people who think very much alike, you still find/do many things differently. It's just a whole other list - my guess is our disagreements are all about things that never come up with most couples. Inner workings of coupledom are very strange indeed!

 

[troutsqueezer]

Actually, I was just about to post a thread,

"DO MEN UNDERSTAND TEAMWORK?"

Because, last night, we had a big turkey dinner pre-Christmas family event, and I was amazed at how useless the men were in the kitchen. Without going into details, it was clear that it would have been "Keystone Cops" if it were not for the fact that the men were eventually banned from the cooking operation altogether. For example, I would give a couple of them something simple to do (like chopping up some nuts for the stuffing, and some fresh sage), and they spent half an hour trying to decide (a) which cupboard the "Slap Chop" was in, and (b) trying to figure out how it worked. And then every time I turned around they were over "sampling" a little of the turkey that was "resting" comfortably just prior to carving. The women, on the other hand, were working like a well-oiled machine, and everything was cooked right on time. (Do you ever start the potatoes too early, and then have to turn them off because the roast isn't quite done yet, only to find later that the potatoes are now all mushy and watery tasting?

I would think it's genetic, but I know better. If your wife had been driving ATV since she was 8 years old like my daughter, she would have said "You rake the leaves while I am gone, and I will go dump them - and make sure you get those two under the rock."

:laughing:

I'm pretty sure that to some measure, this supports my theory. Isn't this skill carried over from cooking up mammoth casseroles? :laughing:

 

[SPYDERLK]

Woman do have a different mine set., they will clean the dust as you try to work and be under foot. Worry about a drop of paint as they step back and knock over a paint can.

Actually ... clean the dust while youre making it. And complain about you making the cleaned areas dusty. :confused3:
larry

 

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From Mammoth Casseroles? Nope. I am a great cook - much better than my wife, even though she is smarter than me. And so was my father.

The point is, we learned long ago (maybe 30 years ago) that the vast majority of "skills" that men versus women currently have are learned, not genetic. (Map reading being an amazing example.) However, with FOOLS like the president of Harvard University mouthing off OUTSIDE of his expertise saying that women do not have mathematically inclined brains, the general public is still stuck with old, simplistic theories that say "if men and women are different, it must be genetic."

Even more interesting is all the new research on Neural Plasticity showing that our "wiring" in the brain can be changed and rerouted by experience and training. (How would you like it if you fried a circuit in your Kubota and woke up the next morning to find that the tractor was now using a different circuit for that particular light bulb?:thumbsup: )

The thing is, our traditional sex roles have become so comfortable for us, it is easy for us to asume there is nothing we can do. Change is really hard, yet change we must. For example, do you know WHY so many of your young sons and grandsons are failing in school, whereas the girls are forging ahead? Is is because the male brain does not learn as well as the female brain?

 

[SPYDERLK]

I can relate to most of these responses too but this one really does drive me nuts. I have this thing about posts, garden statues and benches being plumb. Not so with wifey. Doesn't matter if they look like the Leaning Tower of Pisa to her. "What's the problem?"

how do you know what they look like to her?
larry

 

[Mace Canute]

Actually, I was just about to post a thread,

"DO MEN UNDERSTAND TEAMWORK?"

Because, last night, we had a big turkey dinner pre-Christmas family event, and I was amazed at how useless the men were in the kitchen. Without going into details, it was clear that it would have been "Keystone Cops" if it were not for the fact that the men were eventually banned from the cooking operation altogether.

Sounds like their plan to get out of the kitchen worked to a T!

 

[Redneck in training]

My wife and I work together very well. When we had about second or third date she was helping me remodeling a basement into a play room for somebody I knew from work. I was looking at this woman pounding nails like a carpenter and screwing in drywall like she has not done anything else in her life. That day I got really serious about her. 24 years later we are still working well together. She cooks I clean after her. She gardens I turn the ground with a shovel. I weld she grinds the welds and paints. Whoever has the expertise takes the lead in given job. We built a house together. She did all the electric installtion. I tell people I am married to a guy. She is a proper woman with all the proper plumbing but she just acts and works like a guy. I guess I should ask her get her testosterone level checked to be sure. Perhaps not we have children. That settles that.
We have four children:
The older boy is an artist. He is a computer graphic designer and photographer for a music publisher.
The younger boy is financial advisor. Will stay away from tools as far as he can. Fortunately he is married to a engineer woman that can fix stuff.
The youngest daughter (marine biologist by training) is handy and acts like her mother.
The oldest daughter is also handy and entrepreneurial.

So the daughters act more like guys.

 

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My wife and I work together very well. When we had about second or third date she was helping me remodeling a basement into a play room for somebody I knew from work. I was looking at this woman pounding nails like a carpenter and screwing in drywall like she has not done anything else in her life. That day I got really serious about her. 24 years later we are still working well together. She cooks I clean after her. She gardens I turn the ground with a shovel. I weld she grinds the welds and paints. Whoever has the expertise takes the lead in given job. We built a house together. She did all the electric installtion. I tell people I am married to a guy. She is a proper woman with all the proper plumbing but she just acts and works like a guy. I guess I should ask her get her testosterone level checked to be sure. Perhaps not we have children. That settles that.
We have four children:
The older boy is an artist. He is a computer graphic designer and photographer for a music publisher.
The younger boy is financial advisor. Will stay away from tools as far as he can. Fortunately he is married to a engineer woman that can fix stuff.
The youngest daughter (marine biologist by training) is handy and acts like her mother.
The oldest daughter is also handy and entrepreneurial.

So the daughters act more like guys.

This is turning into a real fun thread. So how do we explain Redneck's family, guys? Or better still get YOUR wives to come on to TBN and give their views on what e.g., troutsqueezer posted.:laughing:

 

[Reverend Blair]

From Mammoth Casseroles? Nope. I am a great cook - much better than my wife, even though she is smarter than me. And so was my father.

The point is, we learned long ago (maybe 30 years ago) that the vast majority of "skills" that men versus women currently have are learned, not genetic. (Map reading being an amazing example.) However, with FOOLS like the president of Harvard University mouthing off OUTSIDE of his expertise saying that women do not have mathematically inclined brains, the general public is still stuck with old, simplistic theories that say "if men and women are different, it must be genetic."

Even more interesting is all the new research on Neural Plasticity showing that our "wiring" in the brain can be changed and rerouted by experience and training. (How would you like it if you fried a circuit in your Kubota and woke up the next morning to find that the tractor was now using a different circuit for that particular light bulb?:thumbsup: )

Exactly.

My wife learned most of the reno stuff by watching TV. They take a lot of short-cuts or don't show everything due to time constraints. The tools don't sound as loud. There are no mistakes. Nobody ever stops to figure out what to do next. They never show anybody doing math on scrap lumber with a carpenter's pencil. She isn't very good at this stuff and we more or less work against each other.

She learned painting from her family and is pretty good at it, but she does it differently than me because I learned it from my family. We can work together, but not too close together.

She learned vegetable gardening and landscaping from me, so we work well together on it. I'm not sure where she picked up the flower gardening thing, but since I have no interest in it, my participation in that is hauling dirt. She never questions my dirt-hauling aptitude, although she doesn't much like the beer-hold installation on the wheel barrow.

"DO MEN UNDERSTAND TEAMWORK?"

Because, last night, we had a big turkey dinner pre-Christmas family event, and I was amazed at how useless the men were in the kitchen. Without going into details, it was clear that it would have been "Keystone Cops" if it were not for the fact that the men were eventually banned from the cooking operation altogether.

Funny thing. If we went to my father's family's house, the women did all the cooking/cleaning. If we went to my mother's family's house, the men helped with the cooking (as instructed) and did the dishes.

At our own house (four boys, no girls) we all had assigned nights. One cooked, one cleaned. That was rotated with other chores. For big meals and gatherings, we were all expected to pitch in.