Dodge 2500 4x4 Hemi????

[garth466]

Well I got the info from a buddy that sells cars. He's a buddy, but he also sells cars so I haven't verified the accuracy.

 

[dgl24087]

The hemi used in the Durango and Ram 1500 has the cylinder cutout, but I don't think the version in the 2500 Ram has it. No EPA mileage tests on those so no real incentive for the manufacturer to install it.

Dodge website lists the 2500 as having the 5.7 L Hemi with MDS.

 

[Z-Michigan]

I guess my info is incorrect.

I think that GM puts their DOD system on the 6.0L in the 1500 but not the otherwise-same engine in the 2500 pickups. Maybe I just confused that with Dodge and assumed Dodge was doing the same thing. (Hopefully I'm not wrong on GM too.... too lazy to look it up at the moment.)

 

[Aquaman]

I've got the hemi in my 04 2500 and agree with everyone who says it doesn't pull the hills very well when towing. Otherwise.....85,000 with NO problems.

 

[jjmarotz]

I own a '04 2500, 4 door, sb, with the 5.7 HEMIIIIIII. All I can say is I love it. Fuel mileage is roughly 10mpg towing and up to 17 empty (with the tonou cover on) No chips, no filter mods, totally stock. I have a 28' bumper pull toy hauler camper and my old '96 Dodge with the 5.9 (360) doesn't hold a candle to the 5.7 Hemi. Power is night and day difference. As far as the U-joints, not a problem at all with 72,000 miles. I did add an Air-Lift kit to it for more stability with heavy loads, and brake controller, and weight dist. hitch. WELL worth the money!!!!!! Air bags are the bomb. I can adjust the pickup to handle any type of load, (ie, camper, snowmobiles, horse trailer,.........etc). Each load is different in my case, but the air bags compensate for all of it.

 

[CumminsLuke]

I am a Dodge dealer. The 2500/3500's with Hemi's do not have the MDS. A lot of guys who want to be billy big rigger bad mouth the Hemi's to no end, and say get the diesel, that don't really need the diesel in the first place. Fact is, the Hemi has proven to be an extremely reliable engine, cheaper to maintain than a diesel, pulls pretty good, and is one heck of a lot cheaper to buy upfront. With the recent introduction of the new 6.7L Cummins engine we have seen a real decrease in fuel economy on those down to around 13-16 empty depending on conditions and in one very rare case I have gotten 18mpg empty out of a 6.7L. I have gotten as high as 15.5 mpg out of a Hemi running empty, and anywhere from between 8-12 mpg pulling, not to mention the 6.7L is about $7,000 more than the Hemi. I use a 1-ton 6.7 Cummins to pull my 48' step deck flatbed that we put three full size trucks on and up to 28 round bales, but for pulling light loads say under 10-12k the Hemi is plenty sufficient. I pull my 24' steel stock trailer hauling cattle or horses with a Hemi quite often and it can take me as fast as the law will allow. The only way anyone can possibly justify the diesel is if the are putting 80-100k miles a year on it, or pulling extreme heavy loads that you need the extra power for. Otherwise paying 7G's more upfront, paying twice as much for oil changes, and having to buy a $45 fuel filter every 15k miles, and diesel fuel being almost 50 cents more than gas(here anyhow) just does not add up financially, unless like I said earlier, you just buy a diesel for the cool factor and not because you need it, which is about 80% of the people I sell diesels to. I am not complaining though, other people's unwise spending puts food on my family's table and an M7040 Cab tractor in my barn.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

I am a Dodge dealer. The 2500/3500's with Hemi's do not have the MDS. A lot of guys who want to be billy big rigger bad mouth the Hemi's to no end, and say get the diesel, that don't really need the diesel in the first place. Fact is, the Hemi has proven to be an extremely reliable engine, cheaper to maintain than a diesel, pulls pretty good, and is one heck of a lot cheaper to buy upfront. With the recent introduction of the new 6.7L Cummins engine we have seen a real decrease in fuel economy on those down to around 13-16 empty depending on conditions and in one very rare case I have gotten 18mpg empty out of a 6.7L. I have gotten as high as 15.5 mpg out of a Hemi running empty, and anywhere from between 8-12 mpg pulling, not to mention the 6.7L is about $7,000 more than the Hemi. I use a 1-ton 6.7 Cummins to my 48' step deck flatbed that we put three full size trucks on and up to 28 round bales, but for pulling light loads say under 10-12k the Hemi is plenty sufficient. I pull my 24' steel stock trailer hauling cattle or horses with a Hemi quite often and it can take me as fast as the law will allow. The only way anyone can possibly justify the diesel is if the are putting 80-100k miles a year on it, or pulling extreme heavy loads that you need the extra power for. Otherwise paying 7G's more upfront, paying twice as much for oil changes, and having to buy a $45 fuel filter every 15k miles, and diesel fuel being almost 50 cents more than gas(here anyhow) just does not add up financially, unless like I said earlier, you just buy a diesel for the cool factor and not because you need it, which is about 80% of the people I sell diesels to. I am not complaining though, other people's unwise spending puts food on my family's table and an M7040 Cab tractor in my barn.

Amen!

(From someone who owns a Cummins diesel and a Hemi Dodge 2500)

 

[CumminsLuke]

Also, putting a 4.10 rear axle in the Hemi trucks makes them pull quite a little bit better, but a lot of the people think it will hurt their mileage too much. With the dual overdrive 545rfe transmission that is behind the Hemi, the 4.10 gears really don't hurt the fuel economy much because that second OD gear still allows you some decently low cruising rpm's, but the 4.10's sure make er pull better.

 

[montanaman]

I am a Dodge dealer. The 2500/3500's with Hemi's do not have the MDS. A lot of guys who want to be billy big rigger bad mouth the Hemi's to no end, and say get the diesel, that don't really need the diesel in the first place. Fact is, the Hemi has proven to be an extremely reliable engine, cheaper to maintain than a diesel, pulls pretty good, and is one heck of a lot cheaper to buy upfront. With the recent introduction of the new 6.7L Cummins engine we have seen a real decrease in fuel economy on those down to around 13-16 empty depending on conditions and in one very rare case I have gotten 18mpg empty out of a 6.7L. I have gotten as high as 15.5 mpg out of a Hemi running empty, and anywhere from between 8-12 mpg pulling, not to mention the 6.7L is about $7,000 more than the Hemi. I use a 1-ton 6.7 Cummins to pull my 48' step deck flatbed that we put three full size trucks on and up to 28 round bales, but for pulling light loads say under 10-12k the Hemi is plenty sufficient. I pull my 24' steel stock trailer hauling cattle or horses with a Hemi quite often and it can take me as fast as the law will allow. The only way anyone can possibly justify the diesel is if the are putting 80-100k miles a year on it, or pulling extreme heavy loads that you need the extra power for. Otherwise paying 7G's more upfront, paying twice as much for oil changes, and having to buy a $45 fuel filter every 15k miles, and diesel fuel being almost 50 cents more than gas(here anyhow) just does not add up financially, unless like I said earlier, you just buy a diesel for the cool factor and not because you need it, which is about 80% of the people I sell diesels to. I am not complaining though, other people's unwise spending puts food on my family's table and an M7040 Cab tractor in my barn.

Would you not agree that the diesel resale value should be something to think about when thinking about that $7,000 difference too?? Especially if it is a vehicle that will be kept around for 100,000 miles or so! Not really easy to get the phone ringing when selling a gas job with over 100,000 miles but a diesel with those miles is still a desired vehicle.

 

[CumminsLuke]

Would you not agree that the diesel resale value should be something to think about when thinking about that $7,000 difference too?? Especially if it is a vehicle that will be kept around for 100,000 miles or so! Not really easy to get the phone ringing when selling a gas job with over 100,000 miles but a diesel with those miles is still a desired vehicle.

I don't think it is as big of an issue. I sold a 2000 Chevy 2500 with a 6.0 gas two weeks ago that had 147,000 miles on it, and she was no cream puff by any stretch. My phone rang off the hook for that truck, I am still getting calls about it. In my market a used diesel with 100k will bring $4-5k more than a comparable gas truck, so I don't know, the math to me still doesn't add up, you give $7k more upfront, you get $4-5k back. I still have a lot of guys looking for a 3/4 ton 4x4 gas truck with a 100k miles on it to make a feed truck out of. It is not so good to take a fancy newer truck out in the cow lot and have cows licking and rubbing on a new truck, also the diesel tends to be too heavy out in the cow lots and sink pretty quick in the manure. I am not saying gas is superior to diesel, I am saying in many cases the diesel is no way justifiable, other than the cool factor.