doggone troubles

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littledog

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doggone troubles

hoping there's a few of you out there that has a best friend that; if your not giving them your complete attention 100% of their waking hours, they tend to get restless and their little brains tell them that there are better and bigger rewards to be earned from the next farmer John. Well, my poodle has worn out his welcome around the neighborhood, resulting in a new project of providing a secure confinement for my pets. very interested in the underground wire idea, but also available now is a basic plug- in system, no wire needed! more expensive, but compared to a actual fence, it's a bargain. if any experience or ideas your advice is appreciated.
 
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Littledog,

I seriously looked at those systems for Leo (Chow/Sheppard). It all depends on the area you wish to fence the dog into. I believe they are only good for 90' radius. A 180' circle isn't very big. Might be for a poodle, but Leo would get very board confined like that. You can get multiple transmitters, and install them so they overlap, but that gets expensive, and then you need electricity everywhere you want a transmitter. I opted for the buried wire, but haven't completed it as Leo seems to be staying around pretty good without it.

Nick
 
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littledog,

How smart is your dog? If he is real smart than be very careful with these electric fences that require a battery operated shock collar.

My wife, before we got married, had a house with one of the underground fences that required the shock collar on the dogs. The system contained one of the dogs just fine but the wifey would get home after work and find the other dog running around the neighbor hood. She check the battery in the collar and it was dead. Hmmmm. New collar how did this happen. So she bought a new expensive battery and few days later she gets home and the dog is out and about. Wifey finds dead battery again. Hmmm..... Replaces battery and the scene repeats.....

Eventually, I can't remember if she saw what the dog was doing or the neighbors did, but the dog that was escaping had a plan. The collar had a warning beep when the dog got to close to the fence. Chase figured out that as long as the collar was beeping she would get shocked if she went past a certain point. But if the collar did not beep she would not get shocked. Sooooo, smart doggy would run up and down along the fence, just on the line where the collar would provide its warning beeps, until the collar was quiet.

Then Chase knew she was free to go a wandering.... /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Wife had to put up an electric fence......

How smart is your dog? /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Hope this helps...
Dan McCarty
 
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Oh yeah - the little buggers know how to work around the system.

Our dog Tip knows when we put him out without his collar. Our youngest daughter has very selective memory and forgets where she "places" the collar. /w3tcompact/icons/eyes.gif So, we have had our dog go out and visit with the neighbors.

Once the collar is on though, he stays on the property. Even when the battery is dead. He hates the beeps and the shock. Border Collies are sensative I've been told. Go figure....

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://pet.innotek.net/>Innotek</A> also makes a wireless collar system.

Terry
 
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I had an Australian Shepherd/Border Collie fella that was hell bent on digging his way under the fence to go visit greener pastures (and a cute li'l ***** down the road
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). I tried burying various barriers, basically extending the fence down into the ground, but he would just move on to a different spot, and with 300 feet of fence, that approach proved futile. /w3tcompact/icons/tongue.gif

What did work, was to run a singe strand of wire, connected to a fence charger, just a few inches off the ground around the inside of the perimiter. There was no way Monte could explore a new place to dig without touching his cold, wet nose to that wire.
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As I mentioned in another thread somewhere, after all the time and expense I invested to install that wire, he only hit it once, and was permanently cured from his burrowing activities. After that, I could place a piece of that wire on the ground anywhere I didn't want him to go, and it worked like a force field. /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
 
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My daughters dog (Beavis, a Yellow Lab) is pretty smart too. When they lived in their last home, her husband put up an electric fence around the perimeter of the yard, at about 18 inches high. It would pulse the electric on and off, and if you were standing near the transformer you could hear the pulsing. One day Beavis was playing ball and the ball rolled under the fence. Beavis stood there with his ears cocked up and timed it perfectly when the fence pulsed off, he jumped the fence, made a quick grab for the ball, and made it back before the fence pulsed on again. That didn't make my son-in-law very happy, so he threw the ball over the fence, Beavis went after it, and Duane blocked him from coming completely over so that he was just about 3/4 the way across the fence. Well you know what sensitive appendage is about 3/4 down the bottom side of a male dog. When the fence pulsed back on, he let out a yelp, jumped straight up into Duane's arms with his lips curled up and his nose about 1 inch from Duane's. After we got done laughing at him, Duane put him down and he licked his appendage even more than usual. After that when the ball went under the fence he would just stand there looking at the ball, then at you, then the ball, back and forth until you went over the fence and retrieved it for him. He's a great dog with one thing on his mind "throw me the ball, throw me the ball, throw me the ball".
Joe W.
 
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When we lived at our last house, our neighbor had a beagle "Snoopy" who would occasionally come into our yard. I built a raised garden and we planted vegetables in the new garden. We lived on the border of a state park, and I bought a small electric fence to keep any rabbits, coons, etc. away. One day Snoopy came over and hiked his leg on the electric fence-ZAP!-he took off and never returned to our yard. A few weeks later, he died, and we've always wondered if we had a part in his demise.
Bob
 
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brewerbob,

If you chose to "christen" the electric fence, you would WISH you probably had died!!!! /w3tcompact/icons/eyes.gif/w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Terry
 
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When I was just a kid, my brother and some buddies were out walking in an overgrown pasture. My brother decided to drain his tank when he started he let out a scream and jumped about 3 feet high. You guessed it he found an electric fence. He had to go home and change his pants. JIM
 
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Most dogs can't outsmart a chain. Or a good chain link kennel on concrete. Some people have good luck with the radio fence products, but I have always been concerned about what could happen if the dog gets through. Also, the electric collar is a powerful training tool, and I can think of better uses for it than just getting the dog to stay in the yard.

My SchH 3 German Shepherd Dog now points deer and rabbits when we are out because he has learned it is futile to try to chase them. I simply praise him and tell him to leave them alone. He is the kind of high-energy dog that is great when you give him some focus, but could be a liability if left to his own devices.
 

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