Re: Don\'t forget to torque those wheels!
There isn't a problem. If there was you wouldn't see it on twenty different brands of equipment. Every wheeled vehicle is subject to loose lug nuts. It's been happening since lug nuts were first put on vehicles. I can't remember the exact physics behind it. There is a very real explanation for why lug nuts come loose though and it has nothing to do with a poor design. It has to do with the wheel traveling a different direction than the torque,
brakes being applied,
etc. I don't remember the exact physics of it.
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Cowboy,
I visited another forum and son of a gun I found some discussion on the John Deere 4000 series loose wheel bolts,funny that only the John Deere owners were talking about loose wheel bolts,must not be a problem because "you wouldn't see it on 20 different brands of equipment" right?
I am going to keep looking for the other 19 brands of equipment that have a problem similar to this problem.
2003-05-27
Hi gang. Having problems keeping rear lug nuts tight on my 4400. Seem to have seen this issue crop up before. Loose connection to hub means bolt holes are becoming oblong and lug nut threads worn out. Any insight into how to handle this other than re-torquing the bolts every 15 minutes. I think I rememer someone else having this problem and having a severe hassle with Deere about it. Before I go to my dealer I would like some background on what the problem is, how to solve it and what Deere did to resolve it. That always makes it easier to deal with the dealer. Thanks!
2003-05-27
I know there was a warranty/service bulletin on the topic. Deere might fix it free, but I do not know what exactly the fix is.
2003-05-27
If no success with Deere, I believe you can find some weld in inserts at Gemplers.com.
2003-05-29
Thanks I will attempt to hunt it down
2003-05-29
Thanks , hopefully I will not have to go that route
2003-05-29
Ask your dealer to reference bulletin # 01-11-35-05. It spells out the required work to fix this problem. It only affects the flat steel wheels. Not "coined disk design". The fix requires using heli-coils to repair any damaged threads in the axles and replacing the tapered seat lugs with special bolts with flat
Here is some more :
Any one know of or heard of the JD 4000 series having problems with wheel bolts coming loose and keeping them tight?
2002-04-11
I think there's a long discussion about the problem and solutions in the archives. It would be good to read the discussion and post again if questions remain.
2002-04-11
What keyword do I use to find it?I am not having any luck.I need help.
2002-04-11
Try this link. Or seach for "wheel" and look for the thread with the most replies.
Reply Web Link JD 4300 wheel problems
2002-04-11
Thanks Bill for the help....That is what I wanted to see.
John Deere is trying to break one off in me.
And here are some more:
Subject :4300 wheel bolt problems
2000-07-16
I have had my 4300 for about a year now and have trouble with the wheel bolts on th elft side coming loose no matter how tight I crank them. Today I lost two bolts and the rest were very loose before I noticed. I remember reading that someone else had this problem. Has anyone else experienced this?
Thanks for the input.
2000-07-17
I check the tightness on my wheels and loader about every month with a 2' breaker bar. I don't know if there is a particular problem with JD4000 series tractors, but checking wheel and loader bolts regularly is good practice. If the problem persists, I'd take off the lugs, clean and lub them, and then re-torque them. Keep in mind that the torque reading should be taken when the bolt is moving. .....
2000-09-10
I was EXTREMELY interested to discover this board and read this post. Our JD4300, with 170 hours on it, just had a monumental problem with this. Last week, while filling in a hole to bury a deceased pet horse, I noticed that the back end of the rototiller bottomed out in the sand. I asked a bystander what was going on, and he had me back the tractor up just a bit and get off it. Apparently, al .....
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2000-09-11
I believe this is a common problem, I have used my buddy's 4400 - and each time, he or I need to check the left rear for loose lugs. The dealer picked up the tractor and fixed the wheel bolt problem as well as a couple of others. He put new bolts and some griptight [or is it locktight?] It has not been a problem since - but I am still watching.
2000-09
OK, moving along on this bolt issue: I talked to the other guy who bought a 4400 hydro from our dealer and had the bolts come off--3 of them--before he noticed. This happened to him between 8-10 hours of use, within the last month (imagine the dealer's surprise when I called them to say the wheel had fallen off MY tractor...). The tractor now has 40 hours and he has tightened them constantly wi .....
2000-09-11
A number of cars and trucks over the years have come with left handed threads on the lug bolts on the left side. The self tightening theory is good; at least in theory, but I've never been able to tell it really made any difference with lug bolts. And I've never had such a problem with lug bolts, but I do believe I would have to try some loctite on them. John Deere didn't by any chance produce .....
2000-09-11
Interesting question about the potential difference in thread. Would a difference in thread account for why the left wheel is always the one to come off? No one is reporting problems on the right side, only the left rear. I kind of don't think so, but I am no mechanic. Just a horse breeder. The service guy did put loctite on the new bolts on the left wheel. Hopefully it will work.
2000-09-11
Actually, I just can't quite imagine the threads being different, but I've seen weirder things happen in manufacturing. And I just can't imagine why the left rear wheel would be a problem and the others not be. So it was just a thought.
2000-09-12
MY 4300 CAME WITH THREE STRIPPED OUT BOLTS ON THE LEFT REAR WHEEL THAT WORKED LOOSE CAUSING WHEEL WOBBLE. PROBLEM WAS REPAIRED UNDER WARRANTY, NO CHARGE.
