Dont take her pocky-book

rswyan · Jul 1, 2017

Sigarms said:
The problem with you is you're using common sense.

Perish the thought ...

Sigarms said:
I did however see the interview on TV with the woman.

Yeah ... that wasn't one of her finer points of demonstrating her wisdom either, at least the pieces I saw.

Making public statements about the incident - that are recorded for posterity - before you've had the chance to consult a lawyer and obtain advice ?

Really ?

It might FEEL GOOD to be able to say one's piece and have someone listen ... but she's letting her emotions rule the day ... rather than using her head for what it was meant for.

She has absolutely ZERO control on how the final piece that is aired is edited ... and how she will portrayed by the media.

Sigarms said:
Honestly, it's a walmart parking lot, and she seemed about as trashy as the guy she hit. I say we just make Walmart property it's own "land" and let the people do what they want. I've been to walmart a couple of times. Have you ever really observed people in Walmart? It's actually kind of scary for many reasons.

Yeah ... I don't go to Walmart all that much ... for a variety of reasons, the ones you mention above included.

Bird · Jul 1, 2017

Sigarms said:
I did however see the interview on TV with the woman. Honestly, it's a walmart parking lot, and she seemed about as trashy as the guy she hit. I say we just make Walmart property it's own "land" and let the people do what they want. I've been to walmart a couple of times. Have you ever really observed people in Walmart? It's actually kind of scary for many reasons.

You've been to Walmart a couple of times, and have that ridiculous opinion? I'm probably in a Walmart about 4 days a week, first one and then another of 8 different Walmarts (lots of them and all very popular in this area). I also occasionally visit a couple of Kroger's and even 2 or 3 other grocery stores, as well as a couple of malls. In spite of the humorous people of Walmart videos on the Internet, I see the same kind of people at Walmart as I see at any other place you might shop.

k0ua · Jul 1, 2017

Bird said:
You've been to Walmart a couple of times, and have that ridiculous opinion? I'm probably in a Walmart about 4 days a week, first one and then another of 8 different Walmarts (lots of them and all very popular in this area). I also occasionally visit a couple of Kroger's and even 2 or 3 other grocery stores, as well as a couple of malls. In spite of the humorous people of Walmart videos on the Internet, I see the same kind of people at Walmart as I see at any other place you might shop.

Yeah, I don't get this Walmart thing. As a person that has visited the local Walmart about 10,000 times and goes about 3 times a week, maybe I am one of ''them"? I dunno. The Walmart is the leading store in our area.

cqaigy2 · Jul 1, 2017

Sigarms said:
The problem with you is you're using common sense.

I did however see the interview on TV with the woman. Honestly, it's a walmart parking lot, and she seemed about as trashy as the guy she hit. I say we just make Walmart property it's own "land" and let the people do what they want. I've been to walmart a couple of times. Have you ever really observed people in Walmart? It's actually kind of scary for many reasons.

You see people like that in correctional facilities. They operate at a 12 year old level or lower, along with the poor impulse control. Sure if i found somebody going thru stuff in my rig, i'd think about running them over, but then those mental resources that have matured after reaching my 10th birthday, kick in.

John Fitzgerald · Jul 1, 2017

I think the laws should be changed. They would not let me sit on that jury.

turnkey4099 · Jul 1, 2017

Oldpath05 said:
Never thought of that scenario, that is a good court argument right there, and if I was on any jury for someone defending their property, NOT GUILTY. Good reason right there to chase a thief down with deadly force, I'd almost bet that once a someone gets away with taking a purse, house/garage burglary cant be far behind, then what's he going to take next, when will a thief stop stealing.

LOcal case on the same line. Guy sees another guy abusing a woman, interfers, gets hit in the face with something (I forget what), Abuser and woman start to walk away, Good samaritan draws and shoots perp in the BACK going away, kills him (good). Court argument was that it was a case of self defense for a thrid party. He was afraid the perp would badly hurt the women. Jury bought it.

Oldoak · Jul 1, 2017

k0ua said:
Yeah, I don't get this Walmart thing. As a person that has visited the local Walmart about 10,000 times and goes about 3 times a week, maybe I am one of ''them"? I dunno. The Walmart is the leading store in our area.

I strongly agree with you and Bird. All the Walmart bashing is ridiculous. I shop there and everyone I know shops at Walmart as well as other stores, some of which are high end stores.

Sigarms · Jul 1, 2017

cqaigy2 said:
You see people like that in correctional facilities. They operate at a 12 year old level or lower, along with the poor impulse control. Sure if i found somebody going thru stuff in my rig, i'd think about running them over, but then those mental resources that have matured after reaching my 10th birthday, kick in.

Thank you.

Added the fact that people don't THINK what their actions may cause. Lady hops in her car to chase thief and the odds are nothing good will come of it.

Deere Dude · Jul 1, 2017

k0ua said:
Yeah, I don't get this Walmart thing. As a person that has visited the local Walmart about 10,000 times and goes about 3 times a week, maybe I am one of ''them"? I dunno. The Walmart is the leading store in our area.

If you walk into a Walmart and can't find a weirdo, guess what, you are probably the weirdo. I am in TN and see plenty of them, but never to the extent you see on some videos.

Sigarms · Jul 1, 2017

Bird said:
You've been to Walmart a couple of times, and have that ridiculous opinion?

No more ridiculous than some of your opinions

gwstang · Jul 1, 2017

Well, down here in Alabama where we dates our sisters and such...lol...we have gotten a few things right. I can use deadly force to stop a felony in the act. I can use deadly force if I perceive that my life or another is in grave danger. We also have "Castle Doctrine". We can and will defend our home/vehicle/persons with deadly force. Crooks don't last a long time down here anymore. And, if the said crook does manage to get the upper hand and harm us and get away...one of our many, "Look Alike" relatives will soon be hot on the trail of said perpetrator...probably with the rather large pack of angry looking hounds that lay around/under the poach. Don't mess with us....country folks can survive! Heck, the "Walmart" "creatures" are scared of us!!!!:laughing:

Hank Williams, Jr. - "Country Boys Can Survive" (Official Music Video) - YouTube

Sigarms · Jul 1, 2017

gwstang said:
And, if the said crook does manage to get the upper hand and harm us and get away...one of our many, "Look Alike" relatives will soon be hot on the trail of said perpetrator...probably with the rather large pack of angry looking hounds that lay around/under the poach. Don't mess with us....country folks can survive! Heck, the "Walmart" "creatures" are scared of us!!!!:laughing:

There is a difference between using lethal force if you believe your life is in danger and using potential leathal force just because you're pissed off someone stole from you.

gwstang · Jul 1, 2017

He was in the process of a felony, wasn't he?

Sigarms · Jul 1, 2017

gwstang said:
He was in the process of a felony, wasn't he?

Yes Mr. Mason, but how do you show she was in fear for her life when she had to get into her vehicle and run the man over while he was running AWAY from her?

gwstang · Jul 1, 2017

Let me call my first witness. Mr good sense. Mr good sense (GS) do you think maybe the guy stealing the woman's purse and possibly getting away with it, would put her and her loved one's at risk? Just maybe he could then use the info in the purse to know where she and said loved one's live? Yes, answers Mr GS, I would gladly run over the dirt bag to stop this felony in progress. Stealing something is a felony. Don't matter what a slippery lawyers might try to turn it into, it is a felony. She should have said , "Halt" and if he did not halt....run over him if that makes everyone feel better about the whole deal. I am glad she did not hit anyone else as that would really be bad. If I'd been there, I would have run over and stomped his head a couple of times to get those "Ants" off him.

To get serious, here is what the castle doctrine is down here. "(3) Committing or about to commit a kidnapping in any degree, assault in the first or second degree, burglary in any degree, robbery in any degree"

Alabama Stand Your Ground - Castle Doctrine Law

Oldpath05 · Jul 1, 2017

Gem99ultra said:
Simple enough....

I think I saw the guy whisper the words "I'm going to go get my gun and kill you!"

Clearly, the woman feared for her life.

You know your right, when I see the video up close in ultra HDTV, I can also see him say that, good one............

Larry Caldwell · Jul 1, 2017

Since all the guy got was a few bumps and scratches, they are going to have trouble convincing a reasonable person that she used deadly force. She stopped without running over him. It's a matter of degree. I know how to kill someone with my bare hands, but if all I do is break his nose, it's not deadly force. I think her lawyer will have plenty of points to argue if it goes to trial.

gwstang · Jul 1, 2017

"Yes Mr. Mason, but how do you show she was in fear for her life when she had to get into her vehicle and run the man over while he was running AWAY from her? "

No No, you don't understand, Your Honor. She was going backward and he ran into the front of her truck....going backward. Clearly all his fault! :thumbsup:

rswyan · Jul 1, 2017

gwstang said:
Well, down here in Alabama where we dates our sisters and such...lol...we have gotten a few things right. I can use deadly force to stop a felony in the act. ...

Well Cowboy ... mebbe you might wanna brush up on the actual Alabama law:

Alabama Code Title 13A. Criminal Code § 13A-3-27:

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(g) A private person acting on his own account is justified in using physical force upon another person when and to the extent that he reasonably believes it necessary to effect an arrest or to prevent the escape from custody of an arrested person whom he reasonably believes has committed a felony and who in fact has committed that felony, BUT he is justified in using deadly physical force for the purpose ONLY WHEN he reasonably believes it necessary to defend himself or a third person from what he reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of deadly physical force.

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