Double charge of power service...

   / Double charge of power service... #21  
Pulled this from a voc-tech lesson plan: MikeD74T

Diesel fuels are classified 1D, 2D, and 4D. Low speed, stationary units use 4D fuels. 4D fuel is not appropriate for most mobile equipment. On-highway and mobile equipment use 1D and 2D fuels. High speed diesel engines use either 1D or 2D fuels. Important characteristics of diesel fuels are its viscosity, pour point, and cetane number. The primary differences between 1D and 2D fuel are the pour point and the viscosity. Pour point is the lowest temperature at which a liquid will flow. Viscosity is the resistance of a liquid to flow. A 1D fuel is designed for cold weather operation; thus, it is less viscous and has a lower pour point. A 2D fuel is used in warmer weather because it has a higher viscosity and pour point. The higher viscosity provides better lubrication qualities for the moving parts of the fuel injection system. Because 2D fuels contain more Btu's (British thermal units - the amount of heat necessary to raise one (1) pound of water one (1) degree fahrenheit) per gallon, they are able to deliver more power per gallon. This is critical to diesel engine fuel economy. The higher the Btu rating a diesel fuel has, the greater power yield per gallon; thus, higher mpg will result. Cetane rating is the diesel equivalent to gasoline's octane rating. Unlike an octane rating, which rates gasoline's resistance to spontaneous ignition, the cetane rating number (usually 40 to 55 for medium to high speed engines) notes the relative ease with which diesel fuel ignites. The higher the cetane number, the easier the fuel ignites; the higher the octane number, the more resistant the fuel is to ignition. Each manufacturer usually specifies a minimum or maximum cetane rating and the suggested operating temperature for 1D and 2D fuels. A given fuel may meet 1D or 2D specifications, but if the Btu rating is too low, then decreased fuel mpg will result.
 
   / Double charge of power service... #22  
johnk said:
I was like a surgeon measuring in precise increments like a heart doctor administering medicine . Guess I'll just give it a couple of splashes and not worry about it. I always was worried about mixing that stuff with the fuel. I guess I was delving into the unknown and i didn't want a potential bomb in the making...Thanks for the insight...

johnk, when I first bought my Duramax diesel truck I was also very precise with how much PowerService I added to the fuel. After a few weeks of that I just started dumping in 6 to 8 ounces with every fill-up. Now 30k miles of that later my truck is running great and the fuel filter looks very clean when the time comes to change it according to my mechanic. I have not had any injector problems or any other type of problem with the engine.
 
   / Double charge of power service... #23  
Hard said:
johnk, when I first bought my Duramax diesel truck I was also very precise with how much PowerService I added to the fuel. After a few weeks of that I just started dumping in 6 to 8 ounces with every fill-up. Now 30k miles of that later my truck is running great and the fuel filter looks very clean when the time comes to change it according to my mechanic. I have not had any injector problems or any other type of problem with the engine.

I do it the same way. I just pour in some Howe's (similar to PS) and don't worry about any precision measuring. I just changed my Fuel filter. There was no water. Engine has run great since I got it. Most of the additive packages do no harm if used a little excessive. Just using more money if added liberally. One of those things I don't waste a lot of time worrying about.
 
   / Double charge of power service... #24  
Glowplug said:
Surgeons don't measure in precise increments. We just "wing it".;)

So true. I give my girlfriend unending grief for this. And then there's the attitude towards sterility... She just bought wire cutters at Tractor Supply to use surgically, seems weird, but it does fit this forum.
 
   / Double charge of power service... #25  
I mix 6oz of Marville Mystery Oil in 1 gal of PS and then use the PS as directed. The Marville oil is for the injector pump and top end lube. Seems to work quite well
 
   / Double charge of power service... #26  
Marvel Mystery Oil is mostly mineral spirits (as per it's MSDS sheet). I don't think it is doing much if anything for your injector pump. Additives like Power Service do the same thing only better.
 
   / Double charge of power service... #27  
Marvel Mystery Oil works great as a gun lubricating oil and also works very well on locks too.
 
   / Double charge of power service... #28  
SkyPup said:
Marvel Mystery Oil works great as a gun lubricating oil and also works very well on locks too.
You're right. Back when I was an active gunsmith I always lubed repaired firearms with MMO. I also favored MMO over Break-Free in competition 45's because BF suspended crud in the fluid which tended to cause feed issues when MMO didn't.
 
   / Double charge of power service... #29  
MadReferee said:
Marvel Mystery Oil is mostly mineral spirits (as per it's MSDS sheet). I don't think it is doing much if anything for your injector pump. Additives like Power Service do the same thing only better.

Mineral spirits is just the carrier for the other two components, Dichlorobenzene and light machine oil, that do the work. The benzene compound does a great job of cleaning carbon from the injectors and the oil lubes the pump. The PS in the mix raises the cetane and lowers the pour point.
 
   / Double charge of power service... #30  
I've really never measured any anti gell/ cetain boost. I just guestimate. Never had any problems/issues.

Odd story (or OT story)-
Recently picked up an older semi, a 1977 IH Transtar II w/ a NTC 290 engine. Used it this fall and at times, one had to crank and crank before it would fire. ( I thought it might have been a pump leaking fuel or something.) Temps were cold, got to low 30's, upper 20's. Any how, when I parked it for the winter, I put some cetain boost/anti gel and ran it. I started it up a 4 days later, after a few nights of cold. Thing fired right up w/out any long cranking. I guess from now on, I'll be using that stuff when ever it starts to get cold......
 

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