dozer track came off sprocket

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Greg_Thomas

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I have a Mitsubishi '93 BD2G series II dozer. The front of the right track has partly come off the front sprocket and the lower half of the track is off the rollers. The left side of the tracks are pressing against the blade arm so the blade can't be raised or lowered. The dozer apparently slid sideways and back a bit on a big rock. When it slid sideways the tracks were pushed against a stump. Other than that, it's working great.
Is there a way to press tracks back on if I could lift the front of the dozer off the ground?
If so, what is the best way to lift the dozer? It weighs about 10,000 lbs. It would be difficult to get a tow truck to where it is.
 

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You could contact someone with an excavating business or a dealer that sells dozers etc, and start asking questions. They might be able to help you out of this mess for a few $$$.
 
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Remove the large grease fitting on the arm going to the idler. Pull the arm hack with a com-a-long. A whole tube of grease will come out of the fitting hole. Put blocking under the blade & use downpressure to lift the front of the dozer. Use bar/ tractor & chain/ com-a-long to pull track under idler. Replace grease fitting & pump in a tube of grease until track is tight. It isn't hard but it isn't fun either. Shouldn't take more than 1 hour. Good luck, MikeD74T

If com-a-long won't pull the idler back put a block between the track & blade & use power angle to push idler back. This should allow enough slack to move blade up/down. Otherwise crawl under with blocking & hydraulic jack.
 
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I lost the track on my dozer a few years ago and didn't have a clue on what to do. I called a friend who has heavy equipment ang got his mechanics number. He said he'd be right out, but never showed. I started calling other mechanics and even United Rental to see if they could put the track back on. Everyone said yes, no problem, and that they'd be right there. No one ever showed up.

Finally I decided to figure it out myself. I used a 20 ton bottle jack and a bunch of 4x6 blocks to get my 40,000 pound dozer in the air.

Once I got it in the air, I realized the tracks were too heavy to move. I had to use my backhoe and chains to pull them around. I did like Mike said, and removed the greese fitting for my tension cylinders. I didn't think of a come along to pull it back. I used the chain and my other tractor.

Just take your time and go slow.

If your curious about the process I went through on my dozer, go to Search and type "Lost my Track" and my name, EddieWalker. It was back in August of 2004, but you should be able to find it real easy if your interested.

Eddie
 
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What is the biggest reason dozer's tracks come off ??? Is it worn rollers and pins or not keeping enough grease in the idler ?

A guy would really be in a fix if the track came off in a bunch of deep mud and freezing weather to boot.
 
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Greg_Thomas said:
I have a Mitsubishi '93 BD2G series II dozer. The front of the right track has partly come off the front sprocket and the lower half of the track is off the rollers. The left side of the tracks are pressing against the blade arm so the blade can't be raised or lowered. The dozer apparently slid sideways and back a bit on a big rock. When it slid sideways the tracks were pushed against a stump. Other than that, it's working great.
Is there a way to press tracks back on if I could lift the front of the dozer off the ground?
If so, what is the best way to lift the dozer? It weighs about 10,000 lbs. It would be difficult to get a tow truck to where it is.

You should be able to lift the front with the blade and then try locking the left track and easing forward to roll the track on.
 
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What MikeD74T, EddieWalker, & kevinj said. Tracks are pretty simple to get back on but they is heavy. Loosen it up, try back forward thing (have a good spotter so ya don’t make things worse). If that don’t work, lift it up and block it (if the blade won’t do it a good bottle jack will). Try the back forward thing again, a lot of times the track will just go back where it belongs when it turns in the air (like a half on belt). If that doesn’t work you will have to apply some force. A chain hooked on the edge of the track connected to a truck/tractor/winch/comealong to as you spin it should do the trick. You will have to get alittle more creative with the force thing if that doesn’t do it but it should be easy to see where it needs to applied. When it gets back where it belongs tighten the track with your grease gun and off ya go.
 
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It looks like that machine has wide pads on it and they will need to be kept tighter than regular to stay on also by how far the idler is out on the track frame they seem to be wore to that makes it harder to keep on. Unless the track is jammed up on the blade frame raise the machine with the blade and let a little grease out of adjuster and it will fall right on put lots of them on in the last 30 odd years and it not that hard on a small dozer like that.
 
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Mike and the others gave you spot on advice about using the cline adjustemnt to help reset the tractor. it's exactly what we do here when our dozers drop a track.

Check that undercarriage for wear.. pins too.. track may need to have a link removed.. and or sprocket and idler replacements.. etc.. or if on the cheap.. welded up.. etc. ( been there.. done that )

Soundguy
 
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I would definitely weld (build up) rather than replace. Those are some pricey pieces of iron. Might take a bar and try to wiggle idler side to side to check and see if bushings are worn. Might not be able to tell much without breaking track, but it's worth checking. Not something that "has" to be done right away, but at least you would know if a rebuild is in your future. Sometimes tracks come off, hopefully you can get'er back to work without much maintenance downtime.
 
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Yes you can build up the Idlers Rollers and sprockets but you will have to tear apart the rollers and idlers if you try and weld them with out removing the seals and bearings-bushings you will arc them and they will be toast in a very short time Don't try and weld on the rails they are too hard and willjust crack and you will have them ruined.If you can't do it your self most good machine shops can rebuild them for you.
 
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I havn't seen a roller yet that didn't need new seals and bearings/bushings, that did need welding up. I.E. when it needs welding.. do all of it.. seals.. etc.

Soundguy
 
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So true but there in comes the problem till you get the price of labor and materials in most cases you are better off using new componets rather than having yours rebuilt unless you can do most of the work your self. There are some very reasonable prices out there not for new undercarrige parts
 
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The others have pretty much covered it. Do yourself a favor and get a repair manual, old iron is always needing tweaking. From the photo it looks like you are on fairly level ground, try throwing a track on a slope, sideways, with the thrown track on the uphill side. Jacking up the uphill side sure made life interesting!
 
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Dirthog said:
So true but there in comes the problem till you get the price of labor and materials in most cases you are better off using new componets rather than having yours rebuilt unless you can do most of the work your self. There are some very reasonable prices out there not for new undercarrige parts

For the most part, we do our own re-working of parts.. however.. we did have some problems with some rollers that had oil imersed bushings that were a bear to press apart.. And I think we -did- replace those vs repairing them, due to the small cost savings of the buildup+shop labor.

Soundguy
 
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Thanks for the suggestions! I released some of the grease- now will release it all and jack it upon blocks and try to pull the tracks back on with a come-a-long.
 
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Did you get your track back on yet? What method did you use, any pictures?
 
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I have a case 310G dozer which the track came off a couple times due to different soils, you need to loosen thetrack for hard dirt, tighten the track for soft sand mud etc. if you use a four foot level or straight piece of lumber to span between surfaces of track between rollers on top of track you should only have about 3/4 inch slack with no pressure towards the front or back of track. you need to do this between the front and middle roller and the middle roller and the drive sproket on top of the track both right and left tracks. If you loosen the adjusting nut at the back of the front roller, all the way back you may or may not need to use a come along to pull it back you can use a 24 inch pipe wrench with a cheter pipe to loosen it at first be sure to clean the threads and grease them, if you can put pressure lowering the blade so it lifts the front of the dozer up, then use two com-a-longs to pull the track first forward to take as much slack forward then use a come along between the blade if theer is a place to hook to or use a chain combination to pull it back in alignment. sounds hard, it isn't just takestime maybe a half hour per side, then after it is back on, check to see that it is on all rollers aligned top and boyttom, let back down on the blade and adjust the track to specifications. I found out by calling St. Joseph Equipment and askingh a mechanic how to do it. If the track jambs on you in a bad spot, you can put a piece of wood under the front of the track after raising the front end by putting pressure on the down blade, put the wood so it catches the track grouser and lst pressure down on it some times loosens a jamned gear not always and be sure not to use much pressure on any thing jamned as it will break and cost a lot to fix. I did not do this but, have replaced gears in the rear end and a small gear cost srveral hundred dollars. but thats another story. Good luck! I never tore down a dozer rear end and have done it twice due to no one telling me you have to shim all the slack out between gears with spacers so Ihad to do it twice and it is so simple to do but work is heavy so go slow and careful. I used a 3 ton jack and a cradel on it to pull the rear end out and a come along and put it back using a comealong and jack it in place to put bolts back in. Not hard at all mechanically wise. Just make sure the bull gear goes back in the right direction otherwise you may find you have three reverse speeds rather then forward and one forward speed. Ihad it out for a whole winter and it got turned around, fit like a charm backwards but when I spun it around before final assembly, noticed my error. won't happen again I can tell you that. I am no dummy neither, I have done mechanic work on cars both diesel and gas. My only hang up at this moment is when the dozer was last used and parked a month later it refused to start a 20 HP diesel. It has drained fuel back and I have tried every thing to restart it even hooked a fuel can with a rubber hose to the intake filters which werre just changed and tried bleeding the injectors nothing, I am thinking the fuel pump went out as there are vanes at the inlet side which there is a ceramic bushing which may have went out and then it won't push pressure into the main compressor of the fuel pump to the injectors a $300 to $500 fix to rebuild. any small leak in a fuel line even so small as to not show up can cause a diesel not to start.
 
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do you realize you replied to a 5 year old post? :)
 

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