Driving tractor over Leech field

   / Driving tractor over Leech field #21  
Good link thehagg501. You Americans certainly know your ... well ... hmmm ... poo. I found it interesting that driving over the leech field can be recorded as a defect when doing an inspection. I think there are differing standards everywhere. Here we are now supposed to how our septic inspected yearly because of some problems with oyster farmers losing their whole crop due to contamination of the water by badly maintained tanks - true. The state govt decided that the local authorities would inspect yearly, only problem is there is no staff to do such a thing.

Anyhow interesting link.
 
   / Driving tractor over Leech field #22  
Good stuff to look at. The link for the septic systems is a really informative one.

I wasn't allowed by the county to add a garbage disposal unless I went with a bigger tank. This would have required another perk test ect... but the previous owner had done all of that so I just didn't want to risk troubles so I went with no disposal.

They put in this type of leach field at my place. No troubles and it can handle the load so it says. I don't go over the leach field with anything bigger than my craftsman mower.
http://www.infiltratorsystems.com
 
   / Driving tractor over Leech field #23  
Okay, you guys convinced me. Since I haven't even looked into my tank for over 12 years, I thought it wouldn't hurt to get it pumped. A local company charges $105.00 to pump it out. I went out last night and found the clean out cap and opened it. Man! It smelled like s*#$!! Duh! I was so happy I could find the thing. That was until I got a whiff of it. I promptly put the cap back on and the guys will be here today to take their fill. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Perhaps this thread may have saved me future problems by bring up something I never thought about. Thanks for the, well, poopy idea. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Driving tractor over Leech field #24  
Thats not a bad cost. Let us know if the guy says it was the right thing to do or not. Didn't mean to scare you but I did want to. (Does that make sense /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif)

I find the help on everything here valuable from other people's experiences to just the other objective thoughts of people I've never met. To help a person such as you with my comments just helps me keep a good thing going.
 
   / Driving tractor over Leech field
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#25  
I've been thinking alot about what stephan had to say and all of a sudden I had a thought.. maybe I've been thinking wrong about the potential "damage" to the leech field from driving the tractor over the field. Maybe my biggest problem isn't a crushing or disturbing of the PVC pipe, rather.. it's compaction of the ground around the field. This would explain why one leg was saturated.. the leg on the periphery of the lawn.. where I have been driving the tractor. My purpose was to avoid the field.. I had no idea they planted a leg so close to the tree line that I couldn't possibly avoid it.
 
   / Driving tractor over Leech field #27  
Well, everything came out okay. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Actually I was gone working when they came, but my wife was here. The guy said that it would take about 20 minutes or so. After 3 hours he was apologizing to my wife for taking so long. Apparently it was either a really large tank or it was nice and thick. When he finally finished he gave my wife an inspection form saying that everything was okay. He obviously suggested to have it done a little more frequently. My wife said it sort of smelled awful and couldn't imagine having that guy's job. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Anyway, staying out of the details, it appears that the good suggestion on here likely saved me from some eventual problems if I hadn't had the old honey dippers drop by. Why do they call them honey dippers? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif That's not exactly the way I'd describe it! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Thanks! I'll schedule them to come again in about 3 years when I'm gone to work just like this time. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Driving tractor over Leech field #28  
Might I suggest some septic/cesspol treatment such as ridx or zep(witch I use) on a monthly basis /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
   / Driving tractor over Leech field #29  
bky, apparently it works well. Supposedly there is no way my tank should have made it 13 years with a family of seven. I've used a bacterial treatment each month and always have. Without, my tank "should" have plugged in one year. However, no amount of treatment will dissolve the solid sludge that falls to the bottom as a by product of the bacterial breakdown process. The only way out is for that to be pumped out. Yeah, I did quite a bit of research before I had my tank pumped. I assumed that by using the treatments that I would never have to have my tank pumped. I'm glad I read this thread and did some research.
 
   / Driving tractor over Leech field #30  
The guy said that it would take about 20 minutes or so. After 3 hours he was apologizing to my wife for taking so long. Apparently it was either a really large tank or it was nice and thick.

I'd bet on the latter..... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Good to hear your all set for a while. If you told him it had been 13 years he would have charged double I bet. And as you know now the bacteria is a hoax thing. Pump the tank every 3-4 years and life is good.

Your folks on the other hand don't pump theirs at all. Almost afraid to go down this road but you might want to bring the situation up to your folks and suggest they do the same.

If you think for a minute the whole tank would need to fill with solids, spill out to the d-box then fill your leach lines to a point where it couldn't seep water into the ground anymore. This process could take 20 years I'd imagine. By then you'd have almost like concrete in your system and digging a new tank and leach field would stop you from buying a new tractor. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
 
   / Driving tractor over Leech field #31  
Glad to help out, there are many false facts floating around especially the tank additive posts that I keep reading. Bacteria is released everytime you sit on the can, hello!
Here are some more facts in a link local to me.
http://www.ext.nodak.edu/extpubs/ageng/structu/ae892-1.htm
I am also an installer. The best place for info has been my local inspector, not peers in the field.
 
   / Driving tractor over Leech field #32  
I think that is one of the best links I've seen. I have a very similar amount of information on paper and have been unable to find the site I got it from. The one I have also has infomation on trees best to grow around the field and trench patterns depending on expected use and available real estate. All very Australia centric I'm afraid.
 
   / Driving tractor over Leech field #33  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( </font><font color="blueclass=small">( Don't drive over your leech field, period. )</font>

Quite a harsh statement, don't you think. We have seen many situations where TBN members have proven your statement to be false.

Alot depends on the design and construction of your leech field. Different states and even areas within each state, have different design minimums that will effect how a field performs. Soil conditions play into that too.

The best answer to the original poster's question is that it depends on many factors and that he should consult with the designer and installer of his particular system to get that answer.
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The guy stated his leach lines are 15" deep.

Do not drive on these. It is a bad thing.

Over time, the soil will compact to 20 inches deep. Might not show up this year, or next year... Clay soils will be real bad, sandy soils will not show up so much. But they all will show up eventually on such shallow lines.

Compacted soil does not absorb water. The point of the leach field is to absorb water. In cold climates, compacted soil freezes much deeper, which is a real concern.

Different soils, different designs, things can work differently.

But it is always a bad idea to run traffic over the leach field. One only 15" deep, it is a real bad idea.

A leach field should be nice loose soil with turf growing on top. You don't want traffic compacting it, and you don't want anything with big deep roots on it, and you don't want it bare. You want loose soil that water can move through, & you want turf that uses some of the moisture & insulates the area.

Period. Whether that is a harsh concept or not, it is the way it is. Anything else makes life harder for your leach field. I would not want to make life harder for my field. Too many people want me to spend too much money on a new one....

As to pumping a septic tank, they need to be pumped every so often. Period. The number of years depends on the amount of use & size of the tank, but rarely can a normal household go beyond 5-8 years without serious damage occuring. It does not matter what 'additives' you put in, septic tanks fill with dirt particles, lint, fiber, and other items that do not degrade, but fill up the bottom. Period. Also they fill with grease from the top down, & it is near impossible to get that grease to break up no matter what magik potions you add.

There are many old septic sytems around here too that have not been pumped in decades. They are old houses that have the septic connected to a tile line. When the septic tank stops working, the stuff just happily flows down the drain line & into the public drainage ditches & streams & lakes. Might not even have had a tank to begin with. I do _not_ consider that a working septic system! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

The harsh reality is that you need to be kind to your leach field, and you need to pump the tank every so often to protect the leach field from filling up with gunk overflowing the tank.

Period.

--->Paul
 
   / Driving tractor over Leech field #34  
I stand by my claim.

I drive over my leach field all the time and for the last 25 years have had no problem. No two leach fields are exactly the same. A licensed installer will take into consideration not only the perc test but other factors like what will be on top of the field, etc. Leach fields can be designed to be under pavement like driveways and parking lots. It's done all the time.

If one wants the real no BS answer for his particular system he should go to the person who designed it who is also probably a professional engineer who specializes in septic systems. Any other response from anyone else on this board or otherwise would be pure speculation.
 
   / Driving tractor over Leech field #35  
We do have our septic tanks pumped on a scheduled basis and other than that we have never given it another thought. Our TC-40D rolls over our system all the time and I suspect it will for many years to come without damage.
 

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