Driving tractor with the front end loader bucket elevated .

[3 Horse Ranch]

On construction sites you’ll rarely see moving equipment with the bucket high in the air. Loaders in a gravel pit are different though.

I've been it lots of gravel pits and I've never seen a loader with his bucket in the air except when weighing and loading. Other than that, they are low. Most likely MSHA rules.

 

[4570Man]

On construction sites you’ll rarely see moving equipment with the bucket high in the air. Loaders in a gravel pit are different though.

A gravel pit loader has a solid front axel which greatly improves stability over a tractor. The loader is working on level ground and the bucket is sized to not hold enough gravel to flip it over. The chances of a rollover would be extremely small. And they still don’t make a habit of driving around all day with the bucket raised. They typically just do it when they’re approaching the truck.

 

[ddbackhoe]

Keep the bucket low. The higher it is, the tippier it gets, especially on hilly ground.

 

[ddbackhoe]

and the bucket is sized to not hold enough gravel to flip it over.

 

[JimR]

I like your design but do not see how this device would help in the case of a day-old fawn. The ones I have seen don't move if they consider themselves well hidden, even when machinery gets closer and closer. `

The same goes for small Turkeys. They will stay in place and not run. I've seen them out in the fields after mowing with a brush hog mower.

 

[diesel85]

The same goes for small Turkeys. They will stay in place and not run. I've seen them out in the fields after mowing with a brush hog mower.

The last time I was helping my farmer down the street do some brush hogging, I ran right over a rabbit colony that had babies. Didn't even notice till I was going the opposite direction and noticed a bunch of bloody fur.

 

[JimR]

The last time I was helping my farmer down the street do some brush hogging, I ran right over a rabbit colony that had babies. Didn't even notice till I was going the opposite direction and noticed a bunch of bloody fur.

These things happen out in fields and there is no way to avoid it.

 

[LD1]

These things happen out in fields and there is no way to avoid it.

Yes they do. But its no less heartbreaking.

Mowing about 400-500 acres a year, I have hit 1 turkey stiting on a nest of eggs, 3 baby deer, and countless rabbits. And 1 ground hog, but that was intentional.

 

[Mfactor]

I have noticed some people driving there tractors with the front end loader bucket about 3' to 4'ft
off of the ground while mowing or brush hogging and I am wondering why some people do so . I always keep the bucket low to the ground .

If i'm working by fences, keeps me from hooking the fence with the bucket.. Otherwise I just take it off.

 

[JimR]

Yes they do. But its no less heartbreaking.

Mowing about 400-500 acres a year, I have hit 1 turkey stiting on a nest of eggs, 3 baby deer, and countless rabbits. And 1 ground hog, but that was intentional.

I have only chopped up a few chucks and a porcupine. I've come close to decimating a few little turkeys but stopped in time to let them flee.

 

[Shorty 13]

A gravel pit loader has a solid front axel which greatly improves stability over a tractor. The loader is working on level ground and the bucket is sized to not hold enough gravel to flip it over. The chances of a rollover would be extremely small. And they still don’t make a habit of driving around all day with the bucket raised. They typically just do it when they’re approaching the truck.

Articulating loader’s can tip over when the bucket is to high and espe when it’s loaded it’s usually the front half that goes over

 

[tacticalturnip]

I have only chopped up a few chucks and a porcupine. I've come close to decimating a few little turkeys but stopped in time to let them flee.

I hit a whole flock of wild turkey pullets a year or two back in my dearly departed RAM; I was coming up a hill in the sunset, and I thought they were horse dung. I didn't even slow down.

I realized what they were as I drove into them; their mother was in the bushes. It broke my heart, and I have cried a few times over it.

In a crazy turn, about a month ago I came upon a similar situation coming home with dinner for the family. Fortunately I saw these little fellas in advance; once I checked behind me, I slowed right down to a stop. Those little turds fuzz balled their way into the bushes, following mama. Safe, happy, and with no clue that 3 of the 4 drinks in the cheap tray provided by Wendy's fell right over. My F350 will now be forever stained because I couldn't kill another group of fluff balls.

I don't even like wild turkeys...

 

[reconmarine]

I am, as well, but schitte happens.

Much less often if people were willing to to give a few minutes’ thought and about an hour with some scrap materials.

Taking such care of God’s creation, especially when it is so easy, is the right thing to do. You of course can do as you please.

 

[reconmarine]

I mow fawns, yotes and ground hogs in fields all the time. No way can I stop the disc mower fast enough not to gobble them up and run them through the crimp rolls. Interestingly, when I go back to rake or ted the next day, they are always gone. The animal kingdom likes fresh killed (and processed meat). Same thing applies to when I go hunting. You don't leave a deer lying in a field or an elk or an antelope lying until the next day because it will be eaten. How it plays.

Cruel as it seems, I mow them and forget about them. I just provided a meal for a predator that they didn't have to hunt down and kill themselves.

I replied to your other post. We are in fundamental disagreement but that is certainly your right. I rather expected such posts. Have a great day.

 

[redman135]

I didn't have time to read 12 pages.
To to posters on pages 1-3, There is a reason for carying the loader high in spite of the stability loss, and that is to save on tickets.The law (new zealand) requires you to operate in a reduced safty confiuration(loader near max height with attatchment pointed at ground) is because the forward legth (front of drivers seat to foremost part of attatchment exceeds 4m) and reqiures you to pull into intersections to see if the road is clear or not. Most tractors over 120hp are only marginally legal under this law. This law was made for trucks and is misapplied to tractors.

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

I didn't have time to read 12 pages.
To to posters on pages 1-3, There is a reason for carying the loader high in spite of the stability loss, and that is to save on tickets.The law (new zealand) requires you to operate in a reduced safty confiuration(loader near max height with attatchment pointed at ground) is because the forward legth (front of drivers seat to foremost part of attatchment exceeds 4m) and reqiures you to pull into intersections to see if the road is clear or not. Most tractors over 120hp are only marginally legal under this law. This law was made for trucks and is misapplied to tractors.

Most of us aren't in New Zealand.

In the US, there is no such law that I'm aware of, that could even be mistakenly applied to tractors. And especially while in a field (not on a public road). Most states here still have laws that allow agricultural equipment to be moved along on public roads (Ag friendly road use exceptions).

 

[tacticalturnip]

I didn't have time to read 12 pages.
To to posters on pages 1-3, There is a reason for carying the loader high in spite of the stability loss, and that is to save on tickets.The law (new zealand) requires you to operate in a reduced safty confiuration(loader near max height with attatchment pointed at ground) is because the forward legth (front of drivers seat to foremost part of attatchment exceeds 4m) and reqiures you to pull into intersections to see if the road is clear or not. Most tractors over 120hp are only marginally legal under this law. This law was made for trucks and is misapplied to tractors.

I don't see how farmers haven't rallied to get the rule clarified.

 

[JimR]

I don't see how farmers haven't rallied to get the rule clarified.

Why? So you can have more Government regulations and 50 States with their own rules?

 

[tacticalturnip]

Why? So you can have more Government regulations and 50 States with their own rules?

I'm speaking with regards to the clarification of an already existing rule, in New Zealand.

 

[JimR]

Ok