Dumb questions that deserve good answers.

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#41  
A new learning for a GC1715 owner.

Well its not surprising that owning a new tractor brings out new learning opportunities in these last 5 months.

I've always wondered why I read many posts from users who claim they never (or rarely) take off their front end loader . . Yet they cut grass regularly with their tractor. Never made ANY sense because a fel creates a whole lot of weight imbalance when grass cutting . . especially on slopes . . but it also creates a much rougher ride because of a "rocking horse" effect . . even on flat land. And turning and visibility are far less desirable.

But recently I got a quick attach for my Massey DL95 loader and I was going to cut a mostly flat lawn and I had planned as always, to drop the fel. But at the last minute I thought it would be even faster to just quick detach the 155 pound bucket instead. So I did and new learning occurred. The light bulb lit up.

With the bucket off . . Its still not as smooth as with the fel off . . but not bad at all. And with the bucket off my vision is good and turns aren't bad either for room. But its about convenience . . 45 seconds for bucket off and 45 seconds for bucket on when cutting is done and I'm back to bucket. Where as dropping and re attaching the fel are 5 to 6 times longer and connector unplug and replug.

Now I expected the convenienxe when switching bucket and forks or bucket and grapple etc. . . but I didn't realize it might make grass cutting possible with fel still on.

An added bonus for having the quick attach :) Maybe many who claim they keep theirs on have quick attach units too and just don't say it . . or they don't mind all the other negatives of that hundred and a half pound weight hanging way out in front.
 
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#42  
The new learning just keeps coming . . and with it comes more questions than answers :)

In Western WI we've gone from a very pleasant Fall to now shades and hints that "olde man winter" is not so far away.

Tonight it will go down from a coolish daily high of 48 to a solid 26 or 27 degrees overnight. So I start looking in the manual about colder weather starting . . and "hark", I see a vision of 30 minute warm ups in my future ???

I have an engine block heater but apparently the hydro fluid seems to nullify my time saving effort. Soooo now its another question: I keep the GC1715 in the attached garage. And the ambient temps in the garage are always warmer than the brisk fresh air of outside. But starting and idling the tractor inside for 10 to 30 minutes is not so hot (pun fully intended) on my breathing or diesel dirt buildup inside.

So what alternatives are there to 20 and 30 minute warmups inside . . . besides physically pushing the tractor outside? And . . how do users detect when the tractor is warm enough to start using it?

p.s. the garage is fair sized . . so heating up the garage an hour before is an unlikely and hard to predict option.
 
   / Dumb questions that deserve good answers. #43  
The new learning just keeps coming . . and with it comes more questions than answers :)

In Western WI we've gone from a very pleasant Fall to now shades and hints that "olde man winter" is not so far away.

Tonight it will go down from a coolish daily high of 48 to a solid 26 or 27 degrees overnight. So I start looking in the manual about colder weather starting . . and "hark", I see a vision of 30 minute warm ups in my future ???

I have an engine block heater but apparently the hydro fluid seems to nullify my time saving effort. Soooo now its another question: I keep the GC1715 in the attached garage. And the ambient temps in the garage are always warmer than the brisk fresh air of outside. But starting and idling the tractor inside for 10 to 30 minutes is not so hot (pun fully intended) on my breathing or diesel dirt buildup inside.

So what alternatives are there to 20 and 30 minute warmups inside . . . besides physically pushing the tractor outside? And . . how do users detect when the tractor is warm enough to start using it?

p.s. the garage is fair sized . . so heating up the garage an hour before is an unlikely and hard to predict option.

Open your garage door when you start the tractor for warm up. NEVER NEVER NEVER leave a vehicle running in a closed garage. Once you start it you can pull it outside to let it complete the warm up. Driving it out will not hurt anything. To speed your warm up cycle you can engage the PTO to get the hydraulic fluid circulating.
 
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#46  
Open your garage door when you start the tractor for warm up. NEVER NEVER NEVER leave a vehicle running in a closed garage. Once you start it you can pull it outside to let it complete the warm up. Driving it out will not hurt anything. To speed your warm up cycle you can engage the PTO to get the hydraulic fluid circulating.

If I engage the pto . . Do I want it at idle speed on the throttle or faster than that?

Yeah . . Running anyengine indoors is frought with concerns. I imagine the coldest it would get in the garage is probably 0 degrees F when its -25 . . but I don't plan on using it at -25 either lol.

P.s. for those reading . . Because it goes to 26 tonight . . it will be 58 and 60 highs this werkend and the color in western wi is just starting with leaves all on trees. So don't hesitate to come and see the color of western wi :)
 
   / Dumb questions that deserve good answers. #47  
If I engage the pto . . Do I want it at idle speed on the throttle or faster than that?

Yeah . . Running anyengine indoors is frought with concerns. I imagine the coldest it would get in the garage is probably 0 degrees F when its -25 . . but I don't plan on using it at -25 either lol.

P.s. for those reading . . Because it goes to 26 tonight . . it will be 58 and 60 highs this werkend and the color in western wi is just starting with leaves all on trees. So don't hesitate to come and see the color of western wi :)

Yes, the PTO (or RPM's) does not have to be high to warm it up. Circulating the fluid will help warm it up faster.
Running the PTO at idle is assuming you don't have an attachment connected.
In cold weather I open my garage door, start the tractor, drive it out of the garage, engage PTO and let it Idle for about 10 minutes before putting it under any load such as pushing snow.
 
   / Dumb questions that deserve good answers. #48  
Might be possible to put a small heating pad on it. Plug it in at the same time as the block heater.
 
   / Dumb questions that deserve good answers. #49  
If I engage the pto . . Do I want it at idle speed on the throttle or faster than that?

Kubota talks about a "high idle" during warm up.
I set mine at 1500 rpm just based on when it sounds the smoothest when cold.
Dave M7040
 
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#50  
Well I guess its time for another question that has "rookie" writtenall over it lol.

I use my 3pt hitch rather often. . but as yet I've never used my rear pto. I notice it has a cover over the pto end (looks like plastic) and it is held on with a rather significant sized bolt.

In earlier question responses it was suggested I run the rear pto to speed up the hydro oil in coming winter temperatures.

A. Can I run the rear pto with that cover on or should i remove it ?

B. Should that cover be on or off normally? (remember I never as yet have had a reason to run my rear pto)
 

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