dump trailers

[kcbarnes]

I have been looking at/wishing for a dump trailer. The one question I have is on the dump hydralics, the one I am looking at has a 5"x30" cylinder hooked directly from the frame of the trailer to the dump box. Some of the others have a cylinder hooked to a secondary linkage that in turn raise the box. Other that a shorter cylinder stroke is there any other advantage to the linkage system?

 

[TWINKLE_TOES]

Kevin,

I don't have an answer to your question, but also have been "eyeing" dump trailers for some time. The following link contains some personal experience of others, also some embedded links to manufacters. Let me know what you end up with and what you think.

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.tractorbynet.com/cgi-bin/compact/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=genbuy&Number=101588&Search=true&Forum=All_Forums&Words=dump%20trailer&Match=And&Searchpage=0&Limit=50&Old=allposts&Main=101588> Dump Trailer</A>

Al

 

[Steve_in_Ont]

Many linkage systems are designed to increase the effective lifting force during the critical intitial portion of the bed tilt. Often, with direct cylinder systems, the bed lifting force is at it's lowest when the bed is fully down.

Not certain what sysem they use... but have you checked out the Provonost trailers?

http://www.pronovost.qc.ca/rema.html#ancre4

I have been trying to get someone to give me a price...

 

[DDT]

I have a E-Z Dumper 6x10 DX. It has appox 4' single cylinder direct bed to frame. I haul 5 ton loads with it all the time. it dumps it easly. I also have a Loadtrail 12' with the sisser lift which uses a shorter cylinder, now this trailer is 1000lbs heaver than the ez dumper empty but 4 1/2 ton is all it will dump. a 100 lbs more than that and it's hand work in the nose. I don't know if there is something wrong with the loadetrail or if that is the way they are.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

It's all a matter of leverage.
What you call a linkage system exerts lifting force at the center of the lifted bed, where a lesser force will tip the same load.
Cylinders mounted at the front of the frame, and exerting force against the back of the box are exerting more force to tip the same load.
The easiest way to understand different systems is to build sort of a model of different lifting linkages, and see how much force you have to exert to raise the load.
The system that works best over the longest period of time, with minimum strain on the trailer and frame is a long cylinder placed at the front of the box that lifts more or less straight up.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

I have overloaded a 610UDT with 7 tons of crushed stone before. Had to unload a lot of it by hand to get her to dump. Only time it didn't dump on her own. Started taking smaller loads after that. EZ dumper makes one of the best trailers on the market and are very high quailty if this is the type trailer you are looking for. I use mine on a regular basis on job sites so it is always going to the transfer station or hauling small loads of gravel or stone when we need a little bit for a job. Never had a problem with it so far.

 

[Corm]

I have a Pronovost 5'x8' 3 way dump that has its cylinder directly attached to the trailer bed. I don't know what size it is (and I'm not at home right now so I can't go measure it for you), but I'd guess it to be a 5" bore, telescoping out to about 30". I don't have any experience with any other type of dump trailer, but I can tell you the setup on mine works very well. I've had it full of wet gravel many times, and it dumps it with no problem.

Corm

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Hey Steve have you looked at www.easternfarmmachinery.com they are up in your neck of the woods and have pricing on all their dump trailers on their site. Thanks Docheb

 

[Steve_in_Ont]

Thanks Tedk. It seems like no one really wants to sell anything... I finally got Provonost to point me to a "dealer"... it turns out they're a wholesaler, and they directed my inquiry to someone else... How many people are going to buy and sell (and take a profit on) this trailer before I can have it?

Currently, I'm struggling with getting something that is a bit small for the road, but will work well around the woods (like a 3000 lbs rating), or a larger dump trailer for the road (like a 5000 - 7000 lbs rating).

Any suggestions?

 

[Mark_in_NH]

Steve, My Pronovost dealer here in New Hampshire which is also my local JD dealer qouted some prices just yesterday.
The model # P-50710/4E 7000 lb. 62" x 99" "dumps 3 sides", was $5040.00, the model # P-50711/4E 7000 lb,
71' x 105" was $4883.00 and the model
# P-5103S/4E 10,000 lb. 90' x 120" "dumps 3 sides" was $6862.00. None of the 3 prices included a delivery charge to get the trailer down here from Canada. He estimated that fee to be approx. $100.00 Hope this helps.

 

[Mark_in_NH]

Steve, I should state, that these 3 models are from there Highway Service line of dump trailers

 

[MarkV]

Thanks Mark, I was curious how much they cost. Not cheap, but I guess you get what you pay for.

MarkV

 

[BOTAMAN]

Taylor Pittsburgh has introduced a line of dump trailers. They have six models, five of the models are for off highway use. Prices range from $2410.00 for a 1.5 ton model to $5400.00 for a 10,000 GVW highway model.

 

[Mark_in_NH]

I sure like the way that several of the Pronovost's models dump on 3 sides. There's also list removable panels. Do some of the other manufactures offer the multiple dumping positions and removable panals ?

 

[digger]

I bought a Bri-Mar dump about 3 years ago , it's 80" X 14' and rated at 12000 lbs. It has a twin telescoping cylinder set up with direct hook up. I have been able to dump every load so far ,some loads of top soil have been stacked high enough that it was falling off 3 sides ( I didn't leave my property loaded like that ) and still no problem dumping. It also has built in ramps , so I can haul my L-48 . A little extra length would be nice for the TBL but it works. Cost was somewhere around 6000

 

[kcbarnes]

I have put my shopping on hold for now as I have found access to a small but very well built dump trailer to move dirt from my pond site. I appreciate all the input from everybody and I hope to put the info to use in a year or two. Thanks.

 

[brian]

I have a Pronovost P-505 hydraulic dump trailer rated at 2.5 tons. I wanted the Normand dump trailer which was the same price but the dealer gave me a song and dance about delivery and being the same trailer. The Normand will automatically latch and unlatch the tailgate without any manual (human) work whereas the Pronovost has to be manually latched and unlatched every time the trailer is dumped (get on and of tractor). I bought the Pronovost and now I am looking at the Normand set-up to try to install on my Pronovost. Also the Normand is a much tighter and sturdier trailer and they are both manufactured in Quebec Canada.