Dump Truck help...

[theboman]

Found a 1978ish F350 with 351 and an electric dump bed... Pros/cons on electric dump beds?? I am CLUELESS, for once ha.

 

[deereguy]

Electric dumps are slower than PTO but seem to be easier to control how much is dumped and if the electric controller has long enough wires, you can be outside, even next to the load as it is dumped. I have one truck that is a PTO and it seemed hard to engage whereas the the electric is pushing a button up and the other button down. What type of hydraulic unit/electric motor does it have?

Good Luck!

 

[gotcha]

Found a 1978ish F350 with 351 and an electric dump bed... Pros/cons on electric dump beds?? I am CLUELESS, for once ha.

Most of all the new Fords & Chevy's sold around here in NE are with the electric pump system. I know of at least 7 in the landscaping and masonry business that have them and there is no complaints coming from one of them.
The Gotcha Man

 

[Dmace]

My 1994 F350 diesel dump truck has an electric hydraulic pump. It looks like a power steering pump and is mounted right on the engine and belt driven just like a power steering pump. The neat thing is it has a clutch that can be turned on by a switch in the cab so it is not always running, only when I need it to be.

This pump runs the dump and the plow setup also, so it is kind of dual purpose. I have had over 4 cubic yards of gravel in the bed and it still lifted it without even raising the idle of the engine. I didn't go on the road with all that weight, it was just moving stuff in the yard.

I like the electric hydraulic setup because if anything ever happens to it, it's an easy fix. If the PTO goes, then you need to crack open the entire tranny to get to it.

 

[texasjohn]

I'd make sure and check the hydraulic filter... see this thread
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/hydraulics/106982-hydraulics-overflow-slow-dump.html

 

[BarryinMN]

I have a chevy cab & chassis elec dump. It will tax the batteries in continuous use - only caveat.

1. Be sure to grease all the fittings
2. It likely will lift far more than the chassis load rating
3. My up/dn box is screwed to the floor & I use a stick to activate.
4. Wave at the pickup people using a shovel to unload!

 

[john_bud]

My 1994 F350 diesel dump truck has an electric hydraulic pump. It looks like a power steering pump and is mounted right on the engine and belt driven just like a power steering pump. The neat thing is it has a clutch that can be turned on by a switch in the cab so it is not always running, only when I need it to be.

This pump runs the dump and the plow setup also, so it is kind of dual purpose. I have had over 4 cubic yards of gravel in the bed and it still lifted it without even raising the idle of the engine. I didn't go on the road with all that weight, it was just moving stuff in the yard.

I like the electric hydraulic setup because if anything ever happens to it, it's an easy fix. If the PTO goes, then you need to crack open the entire tranny to get to it.

Dmace,
You don't have an electric hydraulic pump. You have an engine powered hydraulic pump with an electric clutch. Different critter. Yours is much better. The other is driven by an electric motor like a starter and it will suck electric juice like a starter, get hot like a starter.

As I said, your set up is much better!

jb

 

[Dmace]

Dmace,
You don't have an electric hydraulic pump. You have an engine powered hydraulic pump with an electric clutch. Different critter. Yours is much better. The other is driven by an electric motor like a starter and it will suck electric juice like a starter, get hot like a starter.

As I said, your set up is much better!

jb

You know, as I was typing that I was thinking there was a difference. For some reason that is what the previous owner called it. Now I am curious how they work too. Thanks for the clear up.

 

[Wayne County Hose]

I've got an '87 Chevy one ton I am converting from pto dump to electric/hydraulic. Another good thing about electric, you can tailgate a load with it. It's difficult with my pto set-up. I'm also plumbing the electric unit for a snow plow. One unit does it all.

 

[Renze]

I like the electric hydraulic setup because if anything ever happens to it, it's an easy fix. If the PTO goes, then you need to crack open the entire tranny to get to it.

The thing about PTO pumps is, that you never need to touch them anyways because there are no wires to melt, fuses to blow or batteries to deplete.

 

[gotcha]

The thing about PTO pumps is, that you never need to touch them anyways because there are no wires to melt, fuses to blow or batteries to deplete.

Your right there, but what is more expensive to fix, some wiring or a transfer case/universal joints when it lets go??
Tha Gotcha Man

 

[dixiedrifter]

Depending on how the PTO is set up, if you forget to take it out of gear when you hit the road your looking at $$$ from a blown pump.

 

[Renze]

Your right there, but what is more expensive to fix, some wiring or a transfer case/universal joints when it lets go??
Tha Gotcha Man

Usually a hydraulic pump bolts directly to a PTO gearcase with an SAE flange. No U-joints at all.

I think you missed my point, so i'll repeat myself: An electric setup is cheaper to repair than a heavy duty PTO pump, but the heavy duty PTO pump will outlast the first vehicle and will not repair untill it is transplanted into your next truck. The electric setup will need regular service and cuts your battery life in half.
... now think again and tell us which one is cheaper ?

 

[Defective]

I've run both.

Not interested in electric anymore.

 

[gotcha]

It is just like anything that is mechanical, if you treat it good, maintain it on a regular basis the electrical system is as good as mechanical systems and in many ways lot's better. Try using the mechanical system on a dump trailer. There are thousands in use and like I said above keeping up good PM they'll just keep on ticking.
The Gotcha Man

 

[laurencen]

mine is a 1988 chev 1 to with dump box, the pump is pto driven, I never run the engine faster than idle, guess one could, I have had 3 1/2 yards of gravel with no issues, had the unit 10 years and replaced U joints in drive shaft, mine is mounted between the frame with a drive shaft connecting it to the tranny, there is a engage lever, then a valve center detent, pull for up, push for down, takes maybe 30 seconds to lift fully, never liked electric due to speed and power usage