Dump Truck or Trailer?

   / Dump Truck or Trailer? #31  
Sorry, yes its a 2003 model with 165K miles.

No low gear. Just 5 forward gears. Maybe the 6 speed came with the 6.0L?

I thought the powdered metal connecting rods were on newer engines. I didn't know they were used in the 7.3L PS.

Not sure on the rear gears. Doesn't seem to deep though. Maybe 4.10s? I doubt its 4.88, but maybe.

I'll bring a jack with me and check the front end. Thanks!

Does this have the dual mass flywheel? I've heard some horror stories of those.

the 6 speed started in with the 99 some of the very early 99 i've heard of having a 5 speed, but i have never seen one. i don't know what is going on there, but i'm skeptical. the PMR (yes powdered metal rods) started in 00 though a few forged rod motors did make it into later trucks. i would guess 4.30s but it could be 4.10s. DMF (dual mass flywheels) were a horror, but they stopped with the OBS trucks in 97
 
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#32  
Thanks Terry! You are a wealth of SD knowledge and I appreciate it!

Maybe it is a 6 speed. Now I'm not sure. Reverse is far left and up. It could be a 6. Opps.
 
   / Dump Truck or Trailer? #33  
yes the ZF6 has reverse up and to the left ZF5 has it down and to the right.
 
   / Dump Truck or Trailer? #34  
Here is my new 'trailer' :)

loading_dump_truck.jpg s1900_2.jpg 20150423_130915.jpg S1900_no_sides.jpg

I spent 6 months on Craigslist (or more) pondering the truck or trailer options; seeing what things sold for etc., and I chose an old dump truck. A good heavy duty trailer doesn't turn up used around here often and if it does you can't get to it fast enough to beat someone else to it. If I did get one, it would of cost more than the dump truck I got and my F-150 wouldn't have been able to pull it so a HD pickup + dump trailer was way more expensive than the route I went.

This is a 1982 International S-1900 that started life as a VEPCO power truck. Was auctioned off at 69K miles and converted to a 16ft. staked dump body dump (twin dump cylinders!) with 54" sides that a guy bought and used in his landscaping business and then sold it to his nephew who I got it from (3 owners in 33yrs - not bad). It's got 201K miles on it. It has the legendary DT466 (inline 6 cyl. diesel - 210HP @500ft. lbs. torque) engine in it.

My tractor can't dump anything in it with the 54" sides on (which makes it 9ft tall) but I'm going to cut a 6-7ft. section on each side and hinge it to swing out like a barn door so my tractor can load it with the sides on.

For now I've been using it without the sides ... the excavator guy I hired has been loading me up with stumps and I've been carting them to the corner of the property. Next job is to spread gravel with it building my 1/4 mile road ... something that can't easily be done with a dump trailer.

For my use, an old dump truck was the best option ($5-6K range).

Edit: Oh yea, forgot to mention ... it's a class 7 truck but not registered (is titled) ... Farm Use tags on it ... so no CDL required in Virginia.
 
   / Dump Truck or Trailer? #35  
Rot Box - I own two and did not even know what I had. Do not ever buy a dump that was used for salting. Smart do not need to be told ,and dumb do not listen.
 
   / Dump Truck or Trailer? #36  
Rot Box - I own two and did not even know what I had. Do not ever buy a dump that was used for salting. Smart do not need to be told ,and dumb do not listen.

True! One of the ones I looked at was a Ford L9000 with a Cummins L10. Was used as a salt/plow truck. Was double framed and had cracks from the cab back on both sides. Was asking $4K for it. A friend that is the sales mgr. of an International dealership told me to walk away from that one. The salt gets between the double frame rails and weakens the metal. Probably also didn't help the truck used wing plows too. Truck had less than 90K miles on it ... sad.
 
   / Dump Truck or Trailer? #37  
Being in salt country, make sure you check out the oil pan on that 7.3. They are know to corrode badly if not taken care of properly. It can be a bit hard on the budget to replace so just a heads up. Other than that, a 7.3 truck is a great choice. Trust me I own two!
 
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#38  
Nice truck Hutch! And clean too!

The problem in the NE is that any 4wd 1ton is a plow, salter or both. I've given up on any 4wds that I don't buy new. Can't save them without stripping them down and meticulously restoring every part. Which I will do eventually with the 87.

Good tip on the oil pan. Completely forgot about that.

You guys are great. Thanks, and keep them coming!
 
   / Dump Truck or Trailer? #39  
Here is my new 'trailer' :)
This is a 1982 International S-1900 that started life as a VEPCO power truck. Was auctioned off at 69K miles and converted to a 16ft. staked dump body dump (twin dump cylinders!) with 54" sides that a guy bought and used in his landscaping business and then sold it to his nephew who I got it from (3 owners in 33yrs - not bad). It's got 201K miles on it. It has the legendary DT466 (inline 6 cyl. diesel - 210HP @500ft. lbs. torque) engine in it.

My tractor can't dump anything in it with the 54" sides on (which makes it 9ft tall) but I'm going to cut a 6-7ft. section on each side and hinge it to swing out like a barn door so my tractor can load it with the sides on.

For now I've been using it without the sides ... the excavator guy I hired has been loading me up with stumps and I've been carting them to the corner of the property. Next job is to spread gravel with it building my 1/4 mile road ... something that can't easily be done with a dump trailer.

For my use, an old dump truck was the best option ($5-6K range).

Edit: Oh yea, forgot to mention ... it's a class 7 truck but not registered (is titled) ... Farm Use tags on it ... so no CDL required in Virginia.

Nice truck and looks pretty clean too! I like the removable sides.
 
   / Dump Truck or Trailer? #40  
If you get the truck, here's a little tutorial I used for a coolant flush. It worked great. I didn't mess with SCA, I just bought Fleet Charge from Tractor Supply with the SCA already in it. You may also hear of test strips to check SCA if you go the route of adding your own. It's my understanding that the strips have a shelf life, so don't buy a ton for future use. The Diesel Stop is a great website for 7.3 Ford owners. I learned a lot there in my time with a 1997 7.3.
Coolant changing instructions... - Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com
 

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