Dumpster Echo HC-150 Hedge Trimmer repair

   / Dumpster Echo HC-150 Hedge Trimmer repair #1  

MinnesotaEric

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My brother-in-law is a scrounger and he found an Echo HC150 Hedge Trimmer at the dump. While the engine looked rotted, the trimmer mechanism itself looked to be in good shape. So he brought it to me, and then gave it to me.

I rolled my eyes, but since I'm out of action because of a staph infection in my knee (and it isn't healing up), I took a look at the trimmer.

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The fuel tank was full of garbage, the primer bulb wasn't drawing fuel because the check valve it works with had failed (so new carb entirely), the engine looked like somebody kept it on their garage floor exposing it to road salt getting brought in from parking cars in the winter, and the spark was very weak. But I'm stuck at home, and bored, so I removed the carb and fuel tank, hammered on a 3mm Allen 3/8"-drive socket and removed the four machine screws that held on the recoil mechanism, exposing the flywheel and magneto. I then removed the magneto, mounted the mag in a vice and took a wire wheel mounted on an angle grinder to clean the rust off of it. After cleaning up the mag, I used part of an egg roll box to set a 0.020" gap between the magneto and flywheel magnet. The result was a good, strong spark.

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With a strong spark, I squirted in some starting fluid to see if the engine could run. After several failed attempts, I decided the muffler may be plugged up, and set about to remove the muffler. Removing the muffler involved getting the plastic engine cowl off that largely functions as a heat shield covering the muffler. One screw was too far gone to hammer a socket onto, and after a quick failed attempt to drill it out, I ended up using my ancient Black & Decker Dremel tool to cut around the plastic surrounding the screw, presuming I'd use either safety wire or use a zip-tie on reassembly to replace the screw.

With the engine cowl removed, I removed the muffler, and indeed it was plugged. But with the muffler off, I again squirted in some starting fluid, and got the engine running. It was at this point, I decided to save this miserable little machine, since a new one costs $350.

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Knowing that the engine can run, that I could save the hedge cutter, I ordered in a carb/airfilter/new-fuel-lines-and-primer-kit, and threw the gas tank, engine cowl, air filter housing, and the two parts that make up the muffler into my heated ultra-sonic tank. The muffler needed three half-hour sessions for the tank to heat up enough to work its magic, but the muffler did come out clean.

When the new carb and related bits arrived, I installed everything, greased the trimmer (since it has a zerk), and fired it up.


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   / Dumpster Echo HC-150 Hedge Trimmer repair #2  
That's the same as mine. I only use it once a year for a couple hours to trim up my pine and spruce trees. Works like a top and it's never let me down. I'll drain the fuel out what's left when I'm finished, dump some 2 stroke oil in the tank so it stalls out so it keeps the plastic bits oiled up while she's parked. Never fails to start on the third or fourth pull. I'll spray a bit of Fluid Film on the bar also.
 
   / Dumpster Echo HC-150 Hedge Trimmer repair #3  
I have one of these Echo HC150, the cord won't pull and the engine appears seized, Hydrolock come say? what advice does anyone have if I want to try and tinker, rebuild this thing to working again. It is in fantastic condition other than problem described above. Thanks for any advice. I just wanted a little project and not sure where to start. Nothing on Youtube for this problem.
 
   / Dumpster Echo HC-150 Hedge Trimmer repair #4  
If you think it's hydrolocked, pull the plug out unless you think the crankcase is full but that would be an odd one.
Pull the muffler off and see what the side of the piston and cylinder looks like.
Any chance it was run on straight gas?
 
   / Dumpster Echo HC-150 Hedge Trimmer repair #5  
If you think it's hydrolocked, pull the plug out unless you think the crankcase is full but that would be an odd one.
Pull the muffler off and see what the side of the piston and cylinder looks like.
Any chance it was run on straight gas?
thanks mrmikey for your help. I pulled the plug out and pulled the muffler off and I am attaching pictures of both. I had a dedicated can for oil/gas mix for this and I was the only one who ever used it, so certain there was no chance that straight gas was run. Any suggestions on what I should be looking for inside the piston/cylinder or spark plug. Never done this before but certainly want to learn and get my hands dirty. Thanks for your help/suggestions thus far. What should I do next?
 

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   / Dumpster Echo HC-150 Hedge Trimmer repair #6  
Engine's roached. If you're sure there's been no straight gas run thru it then you probably have a bad crankcase seal that allowed it to run lean. Or a slim chance a piece of carbon broke free and got lodged between the cylinder and piston.
See what a jug, piston, rod, bearings and seals are worth to determine if it's worthwhile rebuilding. May be able to be bought as a kit....maybe?
 

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