EcoDiesel, A Maiden Voyage

[94BULLITT]

I don't understand how presenting the facts is considered bashing.

 

[fordmantpw]

Was it within its payload rating? That's the point, the truck may be physically capable, but if you cant (legally) carry that much weight and you get into an accident, your insurance company can walk away from you and leave you swinging in the wind.

Aaron Z

And that ain't bashing, folks, it's just plain stating facts.

EDIT: Looks like BULLITT beat me to it...

 

[jejeosborne]

You know Chris it is actually insulting that you would think that us Ram truck owners do not have any experience knowing what our trucks are actually capable of. I have a 2008 Ram 1500 4 x 4 SLT , with the 5.7 Hemi , it replaced a 2004 Ram 1500 4x 4 when the lease was up in 2008 because that truck served me so well but I wanted the MDS hemi this time.
I regularily drive my truck the five hour trip to my daughters house hauling my tandem landscape trailer with my Kubota tractor and whatever implements I need that week for helping build their house. The box of the truck (with Leer cap) is filled with any tools or projects I made for my daughter and the cab even manages to handle the groceries I stop for and weight of my Australian Shepherd Dog. On other weekends I find myself and the truck loaded with drywall , or hay or cedar posts or gravel, or sod. In all cases it handled it with no concerns.
You enjoy your Fords..... I enjoy my Dodge , both are very similarily capable although the Dodge has also looked better than Fords since early 2000s . I look forward to new models that Dodge brings out like the diesel that the OP of this thread hoped we would be discussing. But except for your hijacking (bashing) in the thread , it was supposed to continue to talk about that models capability. I plan on replacing my truck when I retire in three years so I was interested in this new Ram model. If I was interested in a Ford model I know where to find their exaggerations if need be.

But I imagine you will continue your bashing as I see from your ridiculous last sentence of your above post.

I too had great service from my last truck which was a 2001 dodge. In 2011 I went back to the dodge dealer expecting to find a replacement. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a 1500 truck to meet my needs and it was solely due to the lack of payload and the trailers I tow with the family. You may experience the same thing here in 3 years when you shop for your post retirement truck. You currently own a 2008 which is the last year of the leaf spring suspension which yielded decent payload numbers. Up until a couple years ago, ram offered a heavy duty 1500 which still had leaf springs. If you want to continue doing what you do now and are dead set on Ram, you will need a 2500 series truck. Not trying to push your buttons but just informing you of the changes from 2008 to the current model.

 

[Diamondpilot]

You know Chris it is actually insulting that you would think that us Ram truck owners do not have any experience knowing what our trucks are actually capable of. I have a 2008 Ram 1500 4 x 4 SLT , with the 5.7 Hemi , it replaced a 2004 Ram 1500 4x 4 when the lease was up in 2008 because that truck served me so well but I wanted the MDS hemi this time.
I regularily drive my truck the five hour trip to my daughters house hauling my tandem landscape trailer with my Kubota tractor and whatever implements I need that week for helping build their house. The box of the truck (with Leer cap) is filled with any tools or projects I made for my daughter and the cab even manages to handle the groceries I stop for and weight of my Australian Shepherd Dog. On other weekends I find myself and the truck loaded with drywall , or hay or cedar posts or gravel, or sod. In all cases it handled it with no concerns.
You enjoy your Fords..... I enjoy my Dodge , both are very similarily capable although the Dodge has also looked better than Fords since early 2000s . I look forward to new models that Dodge brings out like the diesel that the OP of this thread hoped we would be discussing. But except for your hijacking (bashing) in the thread , it was supposed to continue to talk about that models capability. I plan on replacing my truck when I retire in three years so I was interested in this new Ram model. If I was interested in a Ford model I know where to find their exaggerations if need be.

But I imagine you will continue your bashing as I see from your ridiculous last sentence of your above post.

Your 08 is a decent truck because it has leaf springs. The new coils on the Dodges are the killer. Other than that Dodge has a winner.

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

I don't understand how presenting the facts is considered bashing.

Because they don't want the facts.

Chris

 

[wawajake]

I am a Senior Buyer at a multi billion dollar organization and have been looking at the "facts" to make sure I compare apples to apples for 15 years now..............but we learn how to decipher prejudiced facts and unsubstantiated numbers from fiction. ......and make sure to take into account total value including quality and features........and sometimes maybe even whether the paint will stay on a product longer than three or four years. ..............but I digress with that last point because I was behind a maybe 2009-2010 Ford Expedition SUV at lunch at a traffic light.........looked great except for all the paint peeling off the galvanized ? ......tailgate.

 

[fordmantpw]

I am a Senior Buyer at a multi billion dollar organization and have been looking at the "facts" to make sure I compare apples to apples for 15 years now..............but we learn how to decipher prejudiced facts and unsubstantiated numbers from fiction. ......and make sure to take into account total value including quality and features........and sometimes maybe even whether the paint will stay on a product longer than three or four years. ..............but I digress with that last point because I was behind a maybe 2009-2010 Ford Expedition SUV at lunch at a traffic light.........looked great except for all the paint peeling off the galvanized ? ......tailgate.

May be just me, but I'm not exactly sure what your job has to do with you seeing a vehicle with paint peeling off at a traffic light, or what that even has to do with the thread. That must be the only vehicle that has had paint peel off of the tailgate in like, forever.

 

[sld]

Wawa, you can't hide from the facts. Don't take it personal.

Why Ram does this is beyond me. But those numbers shown on the door sticker are potentially VERY important. Don't underestimate this.

 

[HHR]

Here's your chance to get your questions answered by the Ram engineers.
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/events/cbit5qjiidkggu0pn5ese6du7bg

 

[Monster5601]

Funny part is you bash Ford but they clearly have the best overall 1/2 ton combination. If you're honest with yourself they have the best overall combination.
Chris

Isn't the best solution dictated by need?

Ford has the worst gas mileage and the ride quality needs some work. It also won't hurt if Ford included inner rear wheel well liners, what is that about?