Egr delete

[Jerry2626]

Does anyone make a egr delete kit for a n108x kubota

 

[oosik]

Jerry,

I'm sure the answer is no. I don't see any company manufacturing a kit that would allow you to by-pass a pollution control system mandated by federal law. The erg system is one of Kubotas answers to meet federal anti-pollution requirements.

 

[Jerry2626]

Jerry,

I'm sure the answer is no. I don't see any company manufacturing a kit that would allow you to by-pass a pollution control system mandated by federal law. The erg system is one of Kubotas answers to meet federal anti-pollution requirements.

Well I know for a fact they do make delete kits for john Deere and Massey I have seen them just thought that someone my have made them for kubota too.

 

[wmonroe]

Can you post a pic of the egr set up? If it is similar to what is on the 40 series grand L's then all that is needed is two simple block off plates and a piece of heater hose.

 

[Recoveryhill]

Can you post a pic of the egr set up? If it is similar to what is on the 40 series grand L's then all that is needed is two simple block off plates and a piece of heater hose.

Brilliant! (not)

I just can't understand how anyone would consider fouling air and or water that is common to all his or her neighbors. There is a cost to operating a diesel engine and the cost to the environment is part of it. Pollution controls on internal combustion engines place more of the cost of the pollution on the owner/operator, where they should be and less on the health and welfare of your neighbors.

Can anyone seriously doubt the value of pollution controls on machinery or over the road vehicles after witnessing what the air quality was like in major U.S. cities, before and after. Just look at the situation China is in right now where you can hardly breathe due to pollution from coal plants and vehicles and machinery. The argument that, "Oh, I live in the country so I should be exempt", is false. Take responsibility for the mess you are making by shouldering the cost of cleaning it up at the source.

Take a deep breath and have a nice day.

 

[Recoveryhill]

"WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration yesterday announced a regulation that within a decade would cut 90 percent of the harmful pollution from construction equipment, farm equipment and other off-road diesel engines and 99 percent of the sulfur from the fuel they use. It's a big moment in terms of clean air history," Environmental Protection Agency administrator Mike Leavitt said. "That black puff of diesel smoke will be a thing of the past. Diesel exhaust is particularly harmful because it is linked to lung cancer and other ailments, mostly affecting the respiratory system."

This is cut from an article in 2004. The worst of the Particulate Matter is PM10. This consists of Polyaromatic Hydrocarbons of a size that is inhaled deep into lung tissue. You would or should no more bypass your pollution control systems than you would dump spent engine oil into your neighbor's pond.

The regulations that brought about these systems are not a conspiracy unless you consider the effort to save your life and the lives of your children a conspiracy.

Be smart and be clean.

 

[Sysop]

When were tractors ever operated inside the major U.S. cities? Country air has always been better than city air, you will never make me think tractors have ever been a large contributor to city smog issues... I am all for "being green" and not polluting, but a well tuned engine has never been a big problem until you start concentrating lots of them in a small area. The whole anti pollution and green thing is great as a way of life, but too many folk are getting rich with it being rule of law and shouldn't be the case. Over half of the stuff we must pay extra for "to be green" is nothing more than a money maker and will never make any difference in the long run. What is good for the goose isn't always good for the gander. Being smart and clean doesn't necessarily mean buying into everything someone wants to sell.

:stirthepot:

 

[Recoveryhill]

Here are the numbers for eliminating particulate emissions from construction, farm and stationary diesel engines. You can argue with the best scientists, not me:

"The regulation is expected to prevent 12,000 premature deaths, 15,000 heart attacks and 6,000 asthma-related emergency room visits for children every year."

Plenty of off road diesels in major cities, construction equipment, parks and roadway grass machinery and the list goes on. There is no such thing as Country Air or City Air. The layer of life sustaining "air" is as thin as a tissue paper if you scale it to the diameter of the earth. Pollution kills people, damages crops and other vegetation, degrades rivers and lakes and more. For someone to disable pollution control systems on their equipment is trespass. It is the same as if you dump your garbage on my land.

Being smart and clean does require one to use common sense and not violate the law of the land. If one rejects science and feels every law to protect the common good is a conspiracy for someone to "make money", well that's what you believe. I recall the guy who suggested that the sun didn't rotate around the earth having his eyes poked out and killed.......

 

[wmonroe]

Brilliant! (not) I just can't understand how anyone would consider fouling air and or water that is common to all his or her neighbors. There is a cost to operating a diesel engine and the cost to the environment is part of it. Pollution controls on internal combustion engines place more of the cost of the pollution on the owner/operator, where they should be and less on the health and welfare of your neighbors. Can anyone seriously doubt the value of pollution controls on machinery or over the road vehicles after witnessing what the air quality was like in major U.S. cities, before and after. Just look at the situation China is in right now where you can hardly breathe due to pollution from coal plants and vehicles and machinery. The argument that, "Oh, I live in the country so I should be exempt", is false. Take responsibility for the mess you are making by shouldering the cost of cleaning it up at the source. Take a deep breath and have a nice day.

I never said I deleted the egr on my machine, only what was required if someone wanted to do it. Anyone can look at one of these engines and see what is needed. You need to chill out.

I think I might go kill some weeds around my place with some used motor oil now.

 

[Old Red]

From what I understand my diesel particulate filter on my 2008 duramax has cleaner emissions but requires more fuel to do so. Not sure how that helps anything except the guy selling the DPF and the Diesel Fuel?

 

[andrehoude123]

Full delete and straight pipe!! Let her rip like a real Diesel engine

 

[Sysop]

You need to chill out.

Agree; that was more or less my bit, note the smiley stirring the pot... Nobody needs to be preaching about government regulations lobbied into place by those that are out to create a market to get rich in, it was a question; answer it or don't. At best all the emissions stuff does is reduce the harmful output, it doesn't eliminate it. The regulations are there to make an impact with the large operators that are running many hours per day. I really don't think the regulations were meant so much to regulate the weekend farmer putting 100 hours a year on their machine, it is good for all machines to conform, but I don't really think the little guy was the goal or even much of a contributor to the problem... I just don't think folk should jump to the stump the second someone asks something that could very well be asked for diagnostic reasons. Last I knew internet forums weren't the police and weren't anyone's papa...

Can anyone seriously doubt the value of pollution controls on machinery or over the road vehicles after witnessing what the air quality was like in major U.S. cities, before and after.

Plenty of off road diesels in major cities, construction equipment, parks and roadway grass machinery and the list goes on. There is no such thing as Country Air or City Air.

You are the one that brought up the smog issues of major US cities. And yes, there is a extremely vast difference in the quality of air between "the country" and "the city" for many reasons from vegetation to concentration. You take a person and lock them in a room with minimal ventilation, the air will eventually become toxic and they will suffocate. You put 50 people in that same room, it will happen faster. Same effect with a city, build really tall buildings to reduce the airflow at the ground, cram in GOBS of cars trucks and whatever else, you have smog at toxic levels... A weekend farmer's tractor 200 miles away in the country isn't the "cause" or even much of the problem at all.

I agree that as a whole we need to reduce pollution output, but I don't see this guy asking about an EGR delete being the straw that broke the camel's back and brings the atmosphere as a whole, to toxic levels. That stuff needs preached on some Chinese forum someplace, they really need to hear it.

:stirthepot:

 

[Recoveryhill]

From what I understand my diesel particulate filter on my 2008 duramax has cleaner emissions but requires more fuel to do so. Not sure how that helps anything except the guy selling the DPF and the Diesel Fuel?

It helps the guy breathing your particulate matter and places the cost of doing so squarely on your operation of that engine. Seems fair to me and to blame the guy for selling DPF and low Sulphur fuel is like blaming what time the sun comes up for you not getting out of bed early enough?

OK, bottom line: My intention after reading "how to delete pollution controls" post was to stimulate discussion over pollution. Before mountains in the Caribbean I came from mountains in Rockbridge County, Virginia, a long time ago. Imprinted in my memory of that swath of Appalachia recalls "It's ok to throw Mountain Dew cans, Old Milwaukee cans out the pickup truck window so it follows that it's just fine to lose car batteries, washers and dryers, spent living room furniture and whatever, over the side of the road."

Rural boys everywhere, between overuse and incorrect application of herbicides, insecticides, improper disposal of lubricating oil, careless disposal of trash, "over the edge" and ignorance that considers pollution controls on your equipment a government conspiracy that shouldn't apply to rural America I have news for you.

You are wrong.

If this message affects even 5% of the many thousands of visitors to this site, my post has been a success.

 

[V65ozzie]

I just dropped my 1734 at the dealer this morning. Won't regen, started beeping and went into shutdown mode. Lost a weekend of work=lost $$$$$ Can't wait to find out what this is going to cost.

 

[V65ozzie]

Update on mine. Dealer says particulate filter was at 146% At this point the system cannot clean itself, they are removing it and sending it to a company to have it cleaned. No word on cause or cost yet.

 

[CincyFlyer]

Update on mine. Dealer says particulate filter was at 146% At this point the system cannot clean itself, they are removing it and sending it to a company to have it cleaned. No word on cause or cost yet.

Cleaning the filters isn't a big deal; it's something you can likely do yourself.

 

[frugalangler]

Cleaning the filters isn't a big deal; it's something you can likely do yourself.

How? Instructions?