Electrical for a workshop/garage.

   / Electrical for a workshop/garage. #21  
Boy, that was dumb, Inspector 507 is already helpig you. Told you I was getting old! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
   / Electrical for a workshop/garage. #22  
2002 NEC® Article 250.24(A)(5)

edit........
There exceptions of course, but none fits this discussion
 
   / Electrical for a workshop/garage. #23  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( In a nut shell.........you are not permitted to ground anything with the "neutral conductor" beyond the main disconnect. Hence a 4-wire feed needs to be run to the separate building if you run 220 out there. The neutral and ground cannot be connected together. )</font>

I thought you could run a 3-wire feed to a detatched building (L1, L2, neutral) and establish a local ground under certain situations. This is probably not applicable to him as I think I remember one of the conditions being no other shared utilities (i.e. water) between the two structures. I am pretty sure you are required to establish a local ground on any detatched building whether you run a ground wire or not.

Every time I do the math for running power to an external shed I come up with the same answers. It is pretty cheap to run 1-2 GFI protected 20 amp circuits using direct burial cable. This stuff can be had for under 0.10/ft at the local box store. Anything above that gets a little pricey. Conduit runs .10-.15/ft by itself. Large guage wire can get expensive. The cost difference between running a minimal (1-2 circuits) and installing a 60-100 amp sub is on the order of a couple hundred bucks. Noticable for a weekender project to take power to an existing shed, but not a huge amount if you are spending tens of thousands on a workshop. Certainly less than the cost of bringing a backhoe back to dig a new trench in a couple years when you need more power..
 
   / Electrical for a workshop/garage. #24  
fractal,
You are correct, you can just run 3 wires out and then drive a grounding electrode at the separate building. And there are those conditions you spoke of.
But my answer was about grounding (equipment) with the neutral. This is one of the few cases where it may be allowed, but I personally wouldn't do it.
 

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