Electrical problems in truck. Now what???

   / Electrical problems in truck. Now what??? #11  
Ahhh, I don't miss living where road salt is used all winter. Sounds like there are very likely more corrosion issues elsewhere in the wiring. Negative wiring usually doesn't corrode, so start by looking at all things that get positive 12v power.

I would disconnect EVERY connector outside the cab and inspect. If it looks good, add some dielectric grease and re-assemble. If suspect, clean as good as you can, replace any really nasty green pins if necessary, and again, dielectric on everything. If you find water inside a sealed connector, blow it out, clean it out, and then use LOTS of dielectric grease. Sometimes just plugging/unplugging several times after adding some dielectric grease will resolve contact issues and prevent them from re-occurring.

If you want not to spend a lot of money, this is something that's easy to do yourself. Just take your time and go through everything. Spray stubborn connectors with WD40 if they don't want to unplug easily.

For the continuous draw, turn the key off, disconnect the negative battery cable and put a decent multimeter in the circuit. Set it to monitor amp draw on a 10A scale. How much draw you see should correspond to how quickly it runs down. A 1A draw will run a normal truck sized battery dead in a few days. 0.25A might take a week. Most new vehicles have ~0.1A of draw all the time, and can't be left to sit unstarted for long periods of time like older vehicles. If you're under .1A, then your problem is either intermittent, and harder to find, or you've got a battery with a partially shorted cell. If there's a draw, start pulling fuses one at a time, checking to see if the amp draw goes away after each one. When it drops to near zero, you at least know what circuit is causing the draw.
If the draw is really low, disconnect the battery and let it sit. If it's dead the next time you hook it up, you need a new battery...

I should also say that if there's any aftermarket accessory that was wired in along the truck's life, you should immediately suspect it as the draw... If you see non-factory wiring at the battery or fuse box, disconnect that first and see if the problem goes away.

And I'll add that batteries do not like to be run to zero volts. If it's gone flat a few times, it's not going to hold much of a charge, and you will need to replace it. If you can't get the draw fixed before you put in a new battery, put in a disconnect at the same time, and disconnect the battery when you're done using the truck. At least that way you won't have to buy a new battery again... I've found that this style disconnect is cheap, easy to install, and easy to use. I would suggest putting it on the negative side, so you don't have to worry about anything metal touching it and arcing out to ground. Once you solve the problem, you can remove it.

Good Luck!!

Here's your answer! Once you see the amps on the meter begin disconnecting every fuse one by one and checking. After the fuses remove to the relays. Next circuit breakers and finally the alternator. The last would be the computer. Think of this, or any other diagnostic situation, methodically. Like head to toe. Battery is the head, fuses are the neck and light bulbs etc are the toes- don't jump around.
 
   / Electrical problems in truck. Now what??? #12  
Here's your answer! Once you see the amps on the meter begin disconnecting every fuse one by one and checking. After the fuses remove to the relays. Next circuit breakers and finally the alternator. The last would be the computer. Think of this, or any other diagnostic situation, methodically. Like head to toe. Battery is the head, fuses are the neck and light bulbs etc are the toes- don't jump around.

Exactly right!

One step at a time, and keep a log keep a log keep a log. Otherwise, you will get lost and confused!

And remember the first rule of automotive electrical problems: When things get weird, check your grounds. Poor grounds cause all kinds of weird stuff that makes no sense. And don't just look at it - take it apart and clean connector and mounting point to bare metal, slap on some dielectric grease (as already mentioned) and only then can you call it good.

You can do this! :thumbsup: It just takes patience.

And keep a log! :drink:
 
   / Electrical problems in truck. Now what??? #13  
I can't remember which truck it was, but was having the same problem of battery draw down. Pulled it in the shop, after getting it started to do some checking. Pulled the OH door down, but had not yet turned the shop lights on, as I had a light panel in the back wall for some natural light. Light on the passenger side floor caught my attention, as I forgotten my gloves to do another small chore before starting on it. Just so happened, the glove box light was staying on IIRC, due to a faulty switch. Hopefully, it's something that simple.
 
   / Electrical problems in truck. Now what??? #14  
I had a low draw problem so I pulled the battery cable off, put a test light from cable to post and pulled fuses until I found the problem/light went out.
I had passenger seat switch problem. I cycled it a few times and haven't had a problem since.

This is the best way to look for a battery drain. If it has enough current draw to light an incandescent 12v test light it has enough draw to kill the battery. One word of caution: disable the interior light switch while performing this test with the door open. Either tape the switch down or remove it's fuse.

I will echo the need to make sure all grounds are good. Locate all the ground connections you can, loosen, spray with WD40, and re tighten.

These things can drive you nuts. My 2003 F150 started locking itself randomly and that went on for 3 years. Finally I found a thread saying this was caused by a bad battery. My 9yo battery was still starting the truck just fine but I went ahead and replaced it. BAM, no more door lock problem.

It really helps if you can get a good wiring diagram and know how to interpret it.
 
   / Electrical problems in truck. Now what???
  • Thread Starter
#15  
This is the best way to look for a battery drain. If it has enough current draw to light an incandescent 12v test light it has enough draw to kill the battery. One word of caution: disable the interior light switch while performing this test with the door open. Either tape the switch down or remove it's fuse.

I will echo the need to make sure all grounds are good. Locate all the ground connections you can, loosen, spray with WD40, and re tighten.

These things can drive you nuts. My 2003 F150 started locking itself randomly and that went on for 3 years. Finally I found a thread saying this was caused by a bad battery. My 9yo battery was still starting the truck just fine but I went ahead and replaced it. BAM, no more door lock problem.

It really helps if you can get a good wiring diagram and know how to interpret it.

The batteries have been triple tested (draw test) and both tested great. Even put 2 brand new batteries in for couple days and was having same problems.

Will try to get truck back home from garage this week and start going through it. I won't be fast at this as I am no mechanic, but I like the methodical approach tip. Wish me luck and thanks again. I update back on any progress.

I have no manuel with this truck. Where might I find a wiring diagram or atleast a fuse panel lable refrence. I don't know what every fuse goes to and nothing is labled.
 
   / Electrical problems in truck. Now what??? #16  
I have no manuel with this truck. Where might I find a wiring diagram or atleast a fuse panel lable refrence. I don't know what every fuse goes to and nothing is labled.
If you look in the owner's manual or download one from online that should have a listing of what each fuse in the fuse panel does. It may not be exact for your truck but it should get you close.

Aaron Z
 
   / Electrical problems in truck. Now what??? #17  
You should be able to register at the Ford Owner site, enter your VIN, and download an owners manual to get the fuse box layout.

Found this link on Google that might help.
 

Tractor & Equipment Auctions

2017 Ford F-650 14ft Mason Dump Truck (A46683)
2017 Ford F-650...
Dump Wagon (A49251)
Dump Wagon (A49251)
3pt Seat for Tractor (A49251)
3pt Seat for...
Swamp Buggy (A49346)
Swamp Buggy (A49346)
Amkus Rescue System (A46683)
Amkus Rescue...
Lockwood 36” Self-Propelled Bin Piler (A47369)
Lockwood 36”...
 
Top