Eliminating spare tires

   / Eliminating spare tires #31  
Chev could have made the spare tire storage area large enough to put in a spare. The base model has a 17" and u can get up to a 22".

That ship sailed in 1968 when they started using compact spares. You're supposed to store your dirty big fat flat tire in the passenger compartment until you get it fixed.
 
   / Eliminating spare tires
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#32  
That ship sailed in 1968 when they started using compact spares. You're supposed to store your dirty big fat flat tire in the passenger compartment until you get it fixed.

First car I ever owned with a small spare was a '73 Nova hatchback with the "Space Saver" you inflated with the supplied can of air. Never used it. And what does one do when they have a flat and no spare or flat fix kit? Put the big dirty fat flat tire in the back seat and drive around on the brake rotor?
 
   / Eliminating spare tires #33  
Really? The 10.5" is good for almost 9000 lbs except the older 16" rims are limited to 3400 or so each, so 6800 lbs on 265/75 r16 E's. It leaves about 4000 lbs for pin or bed weight. Oh I forgot they derate the tags on the 250 for tax and registration purposes.

I am not quite sure what you are trying to say. Our C3500 (dually) is not far from the max load rating on the front tires when empty. That engine is heavy!

We had a 3/4 ton (F250 SD) and it wasn't enough rear axle capacity for our horse camper, we had to go to a dually to safely handle it. The 3/4 ton was 300# over the rated rear axle weight without horses or water.

Ken
 
   / Eliminating spare tires #34  
I own a Dodge Challenger with 20" rims and very low profile tires, my truck has 17" wheels and e rated tires. The setup on my Challenger is much lighter than the truck wheels and tires. The Challenger handles very well and the unsprung weight is made up for the fact the car has independant suspension front and back. I do agree that trucks don't need 20" wheels and low profile tires, and I think they look better with about a 17" wheel and higher profile tire.
 
   / Eliminating spare tires #35  
Really? The 10.5" is good for almost 9000 lbs except the older 16" rims are limited to 3400 or so each, so 6800 lbs on 265/75 r16 E's. It leaves about 4000 lbs for pin or bed weight. Oh I forgot they derate the tags on the 250 for tax and registration purposes.

You are not very clear on what you are trying to say.

With the F250SD, we were 300# overweight on the rear axle rating. That was with the horse camper, no horses, no water. I could feel the rear end sway a bit on gentle highway curves. When we went to the 1 ton (C3500) dually, it's very solid.
 
   / Eliminating spare tires #36  
I run 305/40/r22 on our Expedition EL. I have no ride quality issues. Looks great. And it feels planted when towing a 7000lbs load(rated for 9600lbs) and the vehicle is loaded with the familly. Only problem is the spare is the wrong circumference. I would never install it as I don't want to screw up the traction control.
 
   / Eliminating spare tires #37  
Haven't you realized it yet? These automakers just think you are not bright enough to change a tire or just too lazy. The new way will be to just text the guy. After all somehow our government thinks automakers should get to an average of 52 mpg in 2025, every pound matters.
 
   / Eliminating spare tires #38  
I guess at the end of the day i am a appearance guy. We are looking to trade in our BMW335I for a Ford Edge. The sport package with the 22" wheels make that car, without the 22's it looks just like everything else on the road.

Chris

Chris be careful with the 22" rims, there is very little rubber for cushion. If you hit a pothole it is very easy to do wheel damage.
 
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Chris be careful with the 22" rims, there is very little rubber for cushion. If you hit a pothole it is very easy to do wheel damage.

Not to mention a brush with a curb will ruin the exterior of the rim as the sidewalls are too short to give any protection. Maybe they need to bring back "curb feelers"....
 
   / Eliminating spare tires #40  
When GM first introduced the Hybrid Tahoe, weight was an issue to get the final MPG's they wanted. The stance is lower than a traditional Tahoe, the front fascia is more "closed off" with deleted tow rings, the rear lift gate has less inner sheet metal, and yes....NO SPARE. Comes with a pair of gloves and a can of Fix A Flat. I'm one of those Jeep owners the OP mentioned with the large tires. I run 17 in wheels because I need alot of sidewall for off-roading. You can't run a smaller spare on a JK Wrangler (07 to present) due to the ESP. The smaller spare will be turning faster than the other 3 tires so it will "think" the vehicle is skidding. This will cause the ESP to apply brake pressure to that wheel. You can manually turn the system off but a smaller spare is not reccomended. BTW. When I bought my GMC 4500 flatbed w 19.5 wheels, I was surprised when it did not come with a spare or a can of Fix A Flat. LOL.
 

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