Oil & Fuel Engine break in oil

[planman8]

A few months ago I started a thread about break in oil and when to change to regular oil. I recieved alot of good advice. I ended up changing oil at 10 hours and putting jd break in oil back in. Yesterday I came across a " break-in oil topic from john deere at the Frontier Power Products site. I will include the web site below. Please let me know what you think. Every dealer seems to have a different thought on it.

Thanks, planman

Frontier Power Products - Deere Break-In Oil

 

[awlchu]

I feel this is marketing voodoo.

If you look at any new John Deere owners manual (Yanmar or Kawa) there is no mention of special break-in oil. Just a break in period and an oil change.

 

[YASH2520]

Interesting, I was perparing to do my first 50 hr service and change the engine oil. This might make me wait until 100 hrs for the engine oil.

 

[LWB]

Interesting, I was perparing to do my first 50 hr service and change the engine oil. This might make me wait until 100 hrs for the engine oil.

There's two ways to look at that. The break in time is when most of the loose particulates gravitate to your oil. The extra 50 hours could mean that you're circulating overly abrasive oil in your engine. Clean oil, no matter what they call it, is always better. Just my opinion.

 

[mhalla]

I don't understand why there would be metal particles circulating longer. Wouldn't the particles be trapped by the oil filter?

 

[thcri]

I ended up changing oil at 10 hours and putting jd break in oil back in.

I don't believe in break in oil being special. I agree there is a break in period but I have never heard of the oil being special. When I wanted to change my first oil I was told not to do it too early. I was told to put the full 50 hours on it to let everything seat properly?? This was also a discussion that I think was one here once before???? I would be interested in hearing others opinion on this or is this what John Deere recomends??


murph

 

[GMC2]

My (2006) JD 5203 (JD power tech engine) owners manual states to change the oil at 100 hours (are at least once a year) just as the article recommends, as well as using only the JD break in oil up to that point. I'm at 38 hours so I have a ways to go.
The manual also recommends at the first oil change to use the break in oil for the second 100 hours if the engine was not put under heavy load at some time during the first 100 hours of operation. I'm not saying i agree with this, but just letting you know what the book states. I will be changing at the 100 hour mark to some type of normal 15w40 diesel engine oil. Have not decided at this point on what brand that will be.

 

[patrick_g]

Following the particular manufacturer's recommendations is way better than some good ole boy's opinion. There is lots of misinformation available and much of it from folks with a deep religious conviction that their particular method is not only superior but that all others are folly. Changing the oil for the first time in a shorter period than the published "regular" interval does no harm and does get rid of wear products which are more prevalent during break-in.

I personally recommend a magnet in the sump next to the drain plug. I promise you it will have more metal debris the first change or two than the next several put together. That location makes for definite visible evidence. You can put the magnet anywhere it will have oil pass over it that you can easily place it but I recommend the drain plug.

If at some oil change you notice a lot more metal "fines" than is typical it warns you of impending problems like extra bearing wear or such. It is a cheap thing to do and if it doesn't help it at least doesn't hurt.

Pat

 

[RoyJackson]

Break in oil should be a single weight, non-detergent oil. The mechanics I've dealt with (automotive and truck) always used 30W.

I'm going to offer a guess that the extended break in duration brought up by this thread may apply to the larger utility tractors Deere builds.

As always, go by what your tractor manual says.

 

[LWB]

I don't understand why there would be metal particles circulating longer. Wouldn't the particles be trapped by the oil filter?

In theory, yes. But you have to consider that a moving vehicle agitates the oil while it's in use. How many times does a particle make its way to a cylinder was before it hits the filter? My manual said 50 hours, and that's what I did. No regrets. Just my opinion.