espresso: pump vs steam

   / espresso: pump vs steam #11  
Hey Pete (aka "The Coffee Guru"), I recently received an offer in the mail for Gevalia (sp?) coffee. It seems to be a club type offer, they tempt you with a free coffee maker and some beans then send you beans every month that you have to either buy or pay to send back. Is it any good? How does it compare to what I can get at my local grocery... or Starbucks... or GMC? What's the most economical way to get the freshest coffee beans for strictly weekend use? TIA /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
   / espresso: pump vs steam #12  
Gevalia = good coffee allowed to go stale before packaging. Save your money and try Dunkin Donuts coffee. Pretty much the same beans, but fresher. Eight O'Clock blend is at the same level of taste and quality as Dunkin Donuts. Starbucks = good non-blended coffee (some are great), okay dark roasted coffee, good packaging. Brilliant marketing. Their blends are okay, but nothing special.

Dark roasting burns the beans and negates much of the coffee's distinctiveness, so it allows you to use less expensive beans to get the same result. If you're a French Roast sort of person, avoid paying extra for FR made from exotic, expensive beans. Once burned, they pretty much all taste the same.

Naturally I'm partial to Green Mountain because of the way we roast, blend and package the stuff, but there are several others out there as good as us. Maine Roasters out of Portland ME is very good. Caribou Coffee down south is excellent. Peet's out west has great quality control but only offers darker roasts. Whatever you get, I'd recommend buying 1/2 to 1 pound nitrogen-flushed valved packages of whole bean coffee. As long as the package is sealed keep it at room temp, but the moment you open the package it should be frozen. Grind the beans just before using; no need to thaw them if they came from the freezer. Never buy from those open bins in the store, especially if you want dark roasts. Oxygen is the worst thing coffee beans can be exposed to.

Hope this helps. Pete
 
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I like either French Roast or Espresso roast for my espresso. What are the differences, in general?

It is hard to say sometimes, because I make mocha's, with lots of chocolate. I can tell some flavors though; I have expierimented with different beans. A coffee shop in Placerville, not far from here, has the best beans in my area. I do not know who they get them from though.
 
   / espresso: pump vs steam #14  
French Roast is the darkest roast, Espresso Roast is one notch below that in darkness. Not much difference, really, since when you roast them that dark all the sugars in the bean are burned away and most of the "coffee" taste is gone. Also, most of the caffeine is gone; the darker the roast the less caffeine survives.

Experiment a bit with lighter roasts when you make espresso. It doesn't have to be burned to be used in espresso. Try a Mocha Java bean -- it's a type of bean, not a flavor -- if you want a hint of chocolate in your espresso drink. I prefer a medium dark roast for my espresso as it doesn't smother the coffee taste and has a lot more caffeine. Generally terms like French, Espresso, or Turkish Roast mean the beans are burned to little lumps of charcoal with very little coffee taste remaining. If you want a bit of coffee taste in your espresso look for terms like Dark or Vienna Roast. Good examples of the latter would be our La Minita Dark or Colombian Popayan Dark. Now and then the roasters make a mistake and overroast a nice Guatamalan or Indonesian and I get lucky. /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Just remember that the darker the roast, the faster the beans go rancid...so insist on the freshest beans you can find. Enjoy your experiments!

Pete
 
   / espresso: pump vs steam #15  
Thanks for the info Pete. I had suspected Gevalia was more of a marketing thing than anything else. Funny you should mention eight o'clock. I'm thinking of trying my next batch from them now that I have a grinder. I tried some of the grind-in-the-store a while back and liked it. Starbucks does have that burned taste but I've only tried the French Roast in whole bean. I guess I'll just have to order more GMC /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 

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