Establishing Value of Broken 4110

[skipmarcy]

2 things come to mind that could cause your clutch problem. #1 problem I did myself first time around was installing the pilot bearing in the end of the crankshaft - I'm a retired auto mechanic and I automatically did this and it was WRONG! The pilot bearing mounts in the FLYWHEEL. With it mounted in the crankshaft like automotive applications, the input shaft isn't long enough and has no support and moves enough to not let the clutch disc slip between the flywheel and pressure plate. The pilot bearing fits perfectly in either place so it's easy to go wrong like I did and the old bearing was destroyed so I didn't see it in the flywheel when taking it all apart.

The #2 problem could be that the pressure plate fingers are not adjusted properly and the release bearing doesn't move far enough to disengage the clutch. I had to fabricate my own "gauge" to measure the distance from the flywheel surface to the surface of the fingers given in the "service" manual. I always remove the flywheel and assemble the clutch assembly to it on a bench to do the measuring and adjusting - very difficult when mounted on the tractor. You have only the slightest bit of exposed flywheel surface to get a measurement from so a custom gauge is needed. Those adjustable bolts are what break occasionally too and leave you in the field without a clutch - happened to me a couple of times over the years.

Be sure to use LocTite on the bolts from the plate to the engine, especially the ones behind the flywheel and make sure the holes are good and clean with some Brakleen !!

 

[Offroadtek]

Merrill, did you try to order the loader brackets or get any made? If you have any pictures of the work you did I'd be interested to see them.

 

[Merrill]

2 things come to mind that could cause your clutch problem. #1 problem I did myself first time around was installing the pilot bearing in the end of the crankshaft - I'm a retired auto mechanic and I automatically did this and it was WRONG! The pilot bearing mounts in the FLYWHEEL. With it mounted in the crankshaft like automotive applications, the input shaft isn't long enough and has no support and moves enough to not let the clutch disc slip between the flywheel and pressure plate. The pilot bearing fits perfectly in either place so it's easy to go wrong like I did and the old bearing was destroyed so I didn't see it in the flywheel when taking it all apart.

The #2 problem could be that the pressure plate fingers are not adjusted properly and the release bearing doesn't move far enough to disengage the clutch. I had to fabricate my own "gauge" to measure the distance from the flywheel surface to the surface of the fingers given in the "service" manual. I always remove the flywheel and assemble the clutch assembly to it on a bench to do the measuring and adjusting - very difficult when mounted on the tractor. You have only the slightest bit of exposed flywheel surface to get a measurement from so a custom gauge is needed. Those adjustable bolts are what break occasionally too and leave you in the field without a clutch - happened to me a couple of times over the years.

Be sure to use LocTite on the bolts from the plate to the engine, especially the ones behind the flywheel and make sure the holes are good and clean with some Brakleen !!

Hello sir. I wanted to Thank You for the reply to my question. I did separate the tractor again, verified everything was correct, readjusted the clutch free play, and when put back together, EVERYTHING IS RUNNING GREAT!

Thank you again for your help throughout this project. I have a good 4110 tractor and I have confidence in its quality! I found that someone had used 1/2" bolts for all the loader support brackets and they were too small for the bolt holes. So, I replaced those 12 bolts with 14mm bolts which make the bolts much tighter in the loader support brackets.

Thanks again.

 

[part-time-Farmer-NC]

Glad to see a happy ending!

 

[5030]

If anyone want to 'salvage' any tractor, no matter what make, All States Tractor is who you want to contact as they specialize in purchasing units for salvage. I've purchased parts from them in the past from salvage units and they have a gob of them in every make imaginable.

 

[Merrill]

Merrill, did you try to order the loader brackets or get any made? If you have any pictures of the work you did I'd be interested to see them.

Hello Sir. I contacted my Mahindra dealer in Statesville, NC and ordered the loader brackets. I was told they are available from Mahindra but are not currently in stock. My dealer said they expected them to be available in the near future.

For $117 each, I would much desire to purchase them than try to reproduce them!

Thanks for your help and interest.

 

[Offroadtek]

That's a good price. I'll have to check again, they were higher at my local dealer. I was going to try to make them, but haven't gotten to it yet. Post back when you get them please.