Ethanol Free Gas

   / Ethanol Free Gas #251  
I was traveling to Wichita quite a bit when I noticed it.
Kid lived in Stillwater for 4 years while her husband went to Vet school. It was a looooong drive for us. About 12.5 hrs.

Amazing amount of oil infrastructure in OK.
 
   / Ethanol Free Gas #252  
I've only had problems with ethanol in two pieces if equipment and they both had Briggs and Stratton motors. coincidence????
I dunno. I only have one piece of equipment with a B&S engine and it runs just fine on E10.
 
   / Ethanol Free Gas #254  
Only ever been there once. Man, those oil wells stunk! On par with the pulp mills we used to have here.
Nothing like the steel mills in Gary, IN in the 50s and 60s.

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Everything stunk and was orange. Houses, telephone poles, buildings, street signs... all orange. So much smoke they'd have traffic accidents. Blech!
 
   / Ethanol Free Gas #256  
Nothing like the steel mills in Gary, IN in the 50s and 60s.

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Everything stunk and was orange. Houses, telephone poles, buildings, street signs... all orange. So much smoke they'd have traffic accidents. Blech!
I remember going through Trail, B.C. in 1958 and looking at the barren land, thinking we'd landed on the moon. If I remember correctly, there was a smelter there.
 
   / Ethanol Free Gas #258  
The truth is none of us really know what we’re talking about in these threads. We say “I ran xxxxxx for my entire life and never had problems”. The truth is that may be valid, it might not be. I’ve personally experienced problems I THINK was because of ethanol fuel but I can’t be sure of it. On three different cases the engine was left with only a 1/3 of a tank or so for months or even a couple of years with ethanol fuel in it. That’s asking for trouble.
 
   / Ethanol Free Gas #259  
Yesterday I hand calculated my first tank of E0 in the Mazda. That included about 1/4 tank of E15 mixed in. I managed almost 43 mpg after traveling about 385 miles on about 9 gallons. I refilled with E0 again and will calculate on next fill. That's about a 3-mpg improvement or almost 10%. Unfortunately, there is an almost 30% difference in price between E0 and E15 and there is no way I'm going to see anywhere near that improvement in mpg. I would have to see about 52mpg to break even.

Even considering all of the above, I plan to run E0 occasionally and will run it in my small engines for the rest of the summer.
 
   / Ethanol Free Gas #260  

Long-awaited guidance, in the form of forthcoming draft proposed regulations, on Section 45Z Clean Production Fuel Credit was released by the Treasury on January 10. The 45Z credit is available for the production of transportation fuels with lifecycle greenhouse gas emissions below certain levels.

Key dates and interim guidance on 45Z credits​

The credit is effective beginning in 2025 and applies to both sustainable aviation fuel and non-SAF transportation fuels. Notice 2025-11 was released and provided initial guidance regarding emissions rates. Industry groups, such as the Renewable Fuels Association, expressed concern regarding the lack of certainty in the guidance.

With the rules not finalized prior to the inauguration next week and a 90-day comment period beginning January 10, certainty regarding the Trump administration’s intentions regarding the Inflation Relief Act that spawned this credit cannot be secure.

On January 15, the USDA released an interim rule to establish guidelines for quantifying, reporting, and verifying emissions associated with biofuel production, in essence defining climate-smart agriculture (CSA) practices required for biofuel producers to reduce their carbon scores and qualify for the 45Z credit. Ideally, these guidelines will be incorporated by Treasury into the final regulations.

The interim rule notably does not include the “bundling” of CSA practices but rather allows a producer to take credit for individual practices such as no-till planting, cover crops, timing of fertilizer application and its efficiency.

Using the USDA feedstock carbon intensity calculator​

The USDA also released a calculator to assist growers in projections of carbon scores. Given that 2025 crop planning is already well under way, it is important to get a handle on the math involved if a producer intends to qualify as a grower for programs with the ethanol producers.

To qualify for 45Z credit, ethanol producers must have a carbon intensity score of less than 50. Currently, most midwestern producers run at a score of about 55. In order to reduce their score, ethanol is relying on a reduction in the carbon score generated from the portion of the product chain within the producer’s control.

Midwestern corn farming averages a score of 29 on its own. Reductions in this score through the CSA practices will result in a 45Z credit to the ethanol producer and what should be premium pricing to cooperating producers.

We ran sample calc for a corn farmer in Bureau County, Illinois, noting that without any sustainability practices the producers CI score is 28.42. With the addition of only the cover crop practice the score falls to 19.88, and with multiple practices we achieved a score of 9.56.

The importance of CSA practices​

Instituting CSA practices can have a big impact on the markets and pricing available for feedstocks and look especially attractive after the last two years of disappointing grain markets. In order to qualify, you’ll need to know your numbers and be willing to share them and your production practices.

Good documentation is key and a willingness to let your local elevator or ethanol processer (if you ship direct) to have insight into your operation and records. Some use the word “audit” when describing their grower programs, but that term is strong.

There is much more to come on 45Z and much to be determined after the new administration takes office. However, the calculators give producers a place to start as they look to premium pricing potential. We will keep you updated as things move forward.
 

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