Expectant PT1430 daddy

[johara1]

Re: 1430 arrives intact... but sickly

these problems with dirt and metal contamination sounds painfully familiar. the more you talk to them,the more you will find that you are on your own.
i went too pt twice,never once did they say they had any kind of qc.or insp. dept. it's the same old thing you get what you pay for.don't expect any more and you will not be disappointed
they do make a good product ,that needs a little tlc. mine didn't run for almost 3 months, i didn't get any help. they don't deliver,only tell you what you want too hear,don't think they will call back.
after the problem with engine was fixed i put the mower on and found the blades hit and i called to tell them about it, terry ask why i waited so long to tell them.like he didn't know i was down with the engine problem. he has never called back about the long blades.never once did they offer to send the right ones.
fix it your self,don't be disapointed. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

 

[Edward_DiMaria]

Re: 1430 arrives intact... but sickly

Hey Regl -where in CT are you - just curious - I am in CT and Richard - not to many owners here - I have the 1845 - have not probed the tank yet - but I love the 45 hp engine
- I have been away for two weeks and did not run the tractor for a week before i left - hit the key and boom she starts so quick - so hang ion there the guys the Diesels are great engines once you get the line cleared -

too bad about PT - but it does not surprise me - they won't become much more than they are with the way they deal with customers - I love the product but there are many things I don't like about the Company - see numerous other posts - they are worried about competition and withhold info - they are their own worst enemy - Terry is usually good and responsive though - (he won't call back you have to call him)

 

[iono]

Re: 1430 arrives intact... but sickly

First, I sure appreciate all the notes and support from this forum. It has helped me build a better picture of what I can and cannot expect from PT. I believe my expectations were reasonable (be delivered a running machine, or get total support and remedy if that's not the case), but it looks like some ajustment, to both the machine and my expectations, will have to be made.

I still feel like a got a very unique, capable, flexible, inexpensive, and just plain cool machine. It's going to be just fine and soon it'll be doing the things I bought it for.

It also seems clear that the only advantage of PT as a company is that they fill a particlar niche that is not served well by other companies right now. But their advantages, as I see them now, are strictly limited to price and machine design... period. If another company can fill the design part, and back it with higher quality, good service, and distributorships, PT will be in serious trouble as a viable business. But let's enjoy our machines and not think about that too much right now. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Anyway, thanks again for all the notes... I'll keep everyone posted about the final resolution, whatever that may be (I will certainly be using of a lot of the information provided to help guide my efforts) and then move on to better topics (like adapting the blade to another axis of tilt, road building, and tales of great carnage from my juniper choked property).

 

[bryce]

Re: 1430 arrives intact... but sickly

One of the solutions you might consider is having the fuel tank interior sealed. I have done it on several motorcycle gas tanks with excellent results. I have also done two metal fuel tanks. Three years later all is still rust free. I also filter all my fuel into my offroad gas tanks. One crudded engine is not worth the frustration of trying to get it to run right.
Just my three cents worth. Bob /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

 

[RegL]

Re: 1430 arrives intact... but sickly

Hi Ed, I'm up here in Salisbury. I went to to trade school back in the 60's with Dave DiMaria from Winsted. Any relation? PT 1430 came in last evening right on time and and I got it dirty already. Put a little over two hours on it grinding an old stump in the yard and field mowing. It's running good so far. I checked the fuel tank with a magnet and also came up with fine metal shavings, I'm guessing all the steel tanks have them so unless I develope a problem or hear about more people with failures, I'm going to try to not worry about it.

Just to report, the stump grinder worked pretty good. I only did an old Poplar stump that was not very hard, I'll give it a better work out before long. One thing I did find out, is that when stump grinding, the tractor needs some kind of windshield. After about Half an hour my shirt was filled with chips and dirt. Face got stung pretty good also. Im thinking I could strap a couple hooks to the ROPS and hang a piece of plexeglass from them.

My concern about the brush cutter deck not being open enough to cut high grass cleanly was certainly unfounded. It's actually open in the back as well as the front. I mowed down 6' high weeds and grass cleanly and it was soaking wet as I was mowing in between the rain showers we have been getting today.

Ok now for questions. I was surprized the PT doesn't have a tach. What's the best amount of throttle, or dosen't engine speed determine attchment speed in a hydrolic system?
Second, do PT attachments have shear pins or do the hydrolics absorb shock say when a mower blade hits something that dosen't move? Well, gotta go, suns coming back out.

 

[marrt]

Re: 1430 arrives intact... but sickly

With most diesel engines, there's a recommended breakin procedure. I think Kubota recommends to avoid maximum RPMs during the first 50 hours and to avoid running the tractor at a fixed RPM for long periods during the first 50 hours. Something like that. Is there a recommended breakin procedure for the Deutz? When I asked Power-Trac about the breakin procedure for the Kohler, they laughed and said "no, just hit it and don't worry about it."

RegL, don't forget to post a picture when you get a chance. Always nice to see and new tractor in someone's yard.

 

[JerryG]

Re: 1430 arrives intact... but sickly

I know that everyone or several here talk about break in procedures. I have yet to talk to any farmer that worries about it. They do just like Power-Trac and I do, they just take it out and go to work. There are a lot of 10-15,000 hour tractors that have been taken to the farm and put on large mold board plows for several days. This also makes sure the rings are seated. I have seen a tractor or two that had to have a overhaul because they were babied and the rings did not seat.

 

[smartguyz]

Re: 1430 arrives intact... but sickly

Hi Reg -

The brush hog does not have shear pins - it has hinged, swinging blades - if it encounters something too hard to cut, the blades swing back. I encountered this a few times running into fir tree roots - the blades whack the root and then the hub continues while the blade is rotated back. You sure know when it happens. After brush hogging for several hours you get a feel for things.

A lot of guys have used the 'tiny tach' that is at tiny tach website. It has some limitations - doesn't update in real-time, and self-contained power supply = must replace the entire unit in a few years. Good thing = it's very inexpensive. Now, I'll freely admit that I'm not sure how this would work with a diesel, since there is no spark lead to do an inductive pickup. I know it will work on the gas engines.

-Rob /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Bob999]

Re: 1430 arrives intact... but sickly

I know that the recommendation for throttle for my Toro ZTR is full throttle at all times for mowing. My understanding is that the drive ratio is engineered to get design blade tip speed at full throttle.

I assume that best mowing performance with the PT is obtained at full throttle. That is my personal experience. Deutz engines are designed to run at full throttle day in and day out.

As to tach's I purchased an analog one from my local Deutz distributor--It turned out to be significantly more expensive than the $65 that Tiny Tach costs for the model that works on a diesel (uses a transducer mounted on an injector line). With the analog tach there also is the issue of calibration. If I had it to do over I would buy the Tiny Tach and expect to replace the unit when the permanently sealed battery died--the manufacturer says up to 8 year life.

 

[smartguyz]

So, how's life with your newly restored little baby?

-Rob /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif